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this program is a legacy program which

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was recorded some time ago

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views and subject matter are products of

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the time in which they were recorded and

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greetings and salutations old friends

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and new and welcome to another amazing

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edition of the midnight hour show

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my name is stephen campion also known as

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the mystery man

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bringing you another amazing evening of

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mystery

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tonight my friends is a special night

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because we're not going to be just

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discussing one great mystery

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of planet earth but several tonight

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we're going to be discussing the mystery

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of crop circles

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we're going to be discussing

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alien abductions

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and most importantly we're going to be

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discussing the phenomena of alien

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hybrids

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are there really

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well there's many people who claim to be

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just that they also claim to have some

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amazing extrasensory or psychic

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abilities

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and it was this mystery

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that brought us

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really to my guest tonight

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my guest tonight will be none other than

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barbara lamb

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and i'm very excited to have her with us

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tonight

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barbara lam is a licensed

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psychotherapist hypnotherapist and

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regression therapist in southern

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california

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she has counseled and regressed at least

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1700 people

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regarding 2600 extraterrestrial

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she's leading expert and presenter in

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this field and has done extensive

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research into e.t human hybrids

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she's also given presentations

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on this subject at major

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conferences and she personally knows and

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interviews a dozen people living among

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who have enough et dna heritage and

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continuing contact with the beings who

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created them to be considered

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e.t human hybrids

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barbara has also co-authored three books

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crop circles revealed

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alien experiences and her latest which

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we'll be discussing in depth tonight

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meet the hybrids

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and as far as barbara goes she's been

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doing professional regression therapy

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since 1984 and since 1991 she

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specialized in regressing people

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into the encounters that they claim to

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have had with extraterrestrial beings

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she recognized that some of those

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experiencers are hybrid beings embodying

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a significant portion of et dna and

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differences from the rest of us

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and uh you know i'm reading this from

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her bio i have to tell you i'm a bit

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skeptical about many of the claims being

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made both in her book meet the hybrids

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i've spoken with her briefly and found

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her to be a really nice person and uh

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you know very knowledgeable on the

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general subject of ufos and aliens

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i'm not really sorry to say i was going

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to say i'm sorry to say i'm not sorry to

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say because you know what we do here on

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we don't just passively accept people

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making wild claims like this so

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tonight i have to tell you the truth my

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friends and fellow truth seekers i'm

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going to be pressing her for some proof

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any meat on the bones here any

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scientific evidence any dna testing that

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would prove that these people that are

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walking around saying yeah i'm a hybrid

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take a simple dna test and prove that

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i want to leave as much time as i can

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for this interview because we have so

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much to cover so ladies and gentlemen

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i say it's time that we get our guest

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barbara lamb on the mystery phone

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let's get to the mystery phone folks and

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see what she has to say

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about these amazing claims

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if you're claiming that you're a person

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hello barbara lambs

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hi miss lamb my name is steven we talked

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about doing an interview today

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i guess the first question that i really

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want to ask you is i did a lot of

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research into some of your background

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and i'm kind of fascinated how somebody

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with a background like yours suddenly

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becomes interested in aliens and ufos

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extraterrestrial hybrids

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can you yes how did this start for you

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i certainly did not expect this at all

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to be in my life and i had a pretty

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college education and and then years

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later me i went to graduate school and

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focused on behavioral science

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as a marriage and family therapist

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deeper sort of work that is

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subconscious part of the mind

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the soul knowing

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in a state of deep relaxation

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clients were pointing out that

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i was doing a really effective

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which i had not really considered that i

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in hypnosis

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in being a past life

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trained this was the highest level

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that it's possible that sometimes

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somebody would come to you with

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or even trauma

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of having been visited by

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intelligent beings who were definitely

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might not remember very much of the

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when i heard the trainer say that

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a big voice in my head

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very emphatically saying

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pay attention to this barbara

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you will be

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stopped first of all that

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these kinds of encounters were happening

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having known anything about it

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anybody would ever come to me about that

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said oh aren't you barbara lamb

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hypnotic regression work

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and she said well would you please

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work with my 21 year old daughter

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very unusual mysterious

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who show up in her room at night

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very confused very distressed

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and really needs help

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so i agreed to work with that daughter

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and that's how i got into

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regression work

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that was a wonderful thing 1991

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so it really was something that i never

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for some reason

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coming to me wanting these regressions

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sometimes i never figured out how they

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even knew about me

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about this subject

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and the word spread

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some of the major ufo conferences

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people who have had the abduction and

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extraterrestrial beings

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happening growing developing

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people are still

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i've heard you described as a magnet for

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people who have had these experiences

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somebody told me that barbara lamb is a

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magnet and people

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who have had these experiences or think

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they have are drawn to her for help

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how does that make you feel like do you

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do you feel like this is something that

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you're just supposed to be doing

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definitely yes even though i never knew

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about it beforehand

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i feel convinced now that

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this is my major purpose for being in

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this particular lifetime

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and it's very gratifying because

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the people who come to these

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progressions

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and feel free to

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discuss

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what's happened to them that they are

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aware of

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they

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feel

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so much helpfulness from this

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and they begin to

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integrate these unusual things that have

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happened to them

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and to live with them

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a lot more comfortably

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so

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it's the helpfulness

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about this whole process that

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is the most important from my point of

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view

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and then in addition to that

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the more i learn about this from

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people's experiences

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the more fascinating a subject

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it is

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and a more significant

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subject

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it is

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because

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there are

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millions of people

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in the united states alone

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according to certain polls

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that have been done

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and there are

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even more millions of people

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worldwide

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who are experiencing these unusual

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encounters

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so it's really

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quite a major thing going on

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even though

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most of our governments including our

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own

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has definitely been keeping

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information that they know about it

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very

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secret

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and and yet

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with people talking about their

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experiences

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and conferences being held

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on the subject of ufos

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and encounters

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the word is getting out

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which i think is very helpful

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to those people who privately have been

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having all these encounter experiences

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you know they feel reassured

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when they know that there's a conference

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given about this subject

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even if they don't go to the conferences

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and they

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i thought

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that other people too

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are having these kinds of experiences

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so it's really important to do what

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you are doing

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uh right now which is to

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help to broadcast

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that peace encounters

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you know i i wanted to talk to you too

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about the hypnotic regression part

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because i'm sure you understand the

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skepticism surrounding people who say

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they were abducted by aliens but i

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happen to have a background in

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entertainment mostly magic shows but for

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a time i did a mind reading and

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mentalism show and that show included

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some stage hypnosis

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now oh yeah i know that therapeutic

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hypnosis and stage hypnosis are wildly

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different but my experience in hypnosis

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has made me very skeptical of

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people who claim to have recovered

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memories through hypnosis because on a

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stage

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given the right set of circumstances an

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audience pool i could get suggestible

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people to believe they were children

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go back to their childhood

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and you know the typical funny stage

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hypnosis tricks i could make people

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quack like a duck bark like a dog

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think they had an orgasm

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and so

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my experience with the suggestibility of

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the human mind and hypnosis

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makes me very skeptical

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what do you say to people

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who are very skeptical of these

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so-called recovered memories that you're

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doing through hypnosis and can you take

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us through some of the process because

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how do you avoid

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creating that experience for them if

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you're the hypnotist

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well those are excellent questions

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and you know there's as you know from

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your hypnosis work

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there's no absolute proof

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that

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what somebody has experienced

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is really true for instance i've talked

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to people who have participated in the

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stage hypnosis

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process

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and when they appear

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to the rest of the audiences

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they're totally

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out of it totally under totally

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unconscious of what they're doing like

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as you said quack like a doctor or

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whatever

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and but

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i have talked to some of those people

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afterwards and they said you know they

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were aware that they were cracking like

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a duck they just thought it was great to

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go along with it that there was some

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part of their consciousness

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that was

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aware

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of what they were doing even a very

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unusual thing

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yeah i must admit that i was not that

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great at i put a small portion in my

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show because i thought it was of

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interest and what i did was go through

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the pool of the audience find the most

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suggestible people and those were the

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subjects that i would use so

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yeah i i think that a lot of the people

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quite honestly were just playing along

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going along with the show having a good

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time

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the stuff that i see with

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hypnotic regression and therapeutic

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hypnosis seems to be a much more deeper

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true hypnosis state

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wouldn't you agree with that

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i do very much so and there's a another

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big difference that people who come for

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a regression

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for instance to

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extraterrestrial

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experiences or maybe just

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something mysterious that

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began to happen

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they don't even know

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yet if it's extraterrestrial but those

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people

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have usually been

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thinking about

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that unusual event

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for a long time

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decades and many cases or

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a year or so or as i said decades

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and um they are serious

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about

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wanting to know

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what went on

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in a particular experience

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for instance

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somebody might be sleeping at night

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and might be

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awakened to realize that

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there's a bright beam of light

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coming in through the window

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and they don't know where that's coming

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from

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or it might be that the room

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fills with light

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or the room fills with little circling

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dots of light or orbs of light

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or they might awaken to realize that

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there's somebody in the room

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whom they can't see very well

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they can get a general impression

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of the size

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of that one who's in the room but they

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may not even get to detect that

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that one is not a human being

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they might or they might not or there

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might be a glowing

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being in the room by the side of the bed

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and that might be all they remember

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or they might remember

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a few moments more of feeling like they

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were being levitated

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up from the bed

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and moved across the room

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maybe they might even remember

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going through a closed window or a solid

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wall

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but that's usually all they remember

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and so they will

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think about this for

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a considerable period of time

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before they find somebody to

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do a regression to

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what the rest of that experience might

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have been

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so it's a serious

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thing for them to come to a regression

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therapist

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of something like that

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and they're not for entertainment

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but it's for a sincere

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wish to go

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what was that experience

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all about and was there more to it than

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i

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aware of

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so

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they were earnest

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and and they know very little about it

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usually

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before they come

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for the regression

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so we do the regression

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and i try very hard

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not to

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impress upon them

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a certain kind of thing happening in

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other words

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not to influence

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what happened or

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influence

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their

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awareness of what happened

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so when something unusable like that

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that happened to the person

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i just take them back to

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that particular time period

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and where they were

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like in their

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bedroom at home in los angeles or

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their grandmother's attic

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bedroom when they were six years old or

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whatever

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the presenting

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inspiration was

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and just say let's go back to that night

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you are there now

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and just be aware

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of anything

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happening

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anything unusual even just a few moments

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of something occurring

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now this is after having done at least

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15

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of

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deep relaxation

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and explaining during black victim

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they were going to go

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do that then

583
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that they wonder

584
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and to get the needs

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of that

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and i mentioned

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two or three times

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during the relaxation after going back

589
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to

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that particular time

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have mentioned

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that they wanted

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00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:03,039
the details of

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so we do that process and we go back to

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that time

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of the event

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proceed

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moment by moment by moment

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all the ways through

600
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:24,240
whatever the experience

601
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:25,679
was

602
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,039
and i

603
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:29,679
emphasized to the person

604
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:32,400
that they now back

605
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:35,679
in time in the regress

606
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:38,080
in other words they are

607
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,919
reliving

608
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:41,360
the details

609
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:42,880
of that whole

610
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:45,679
experience

611
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,360
and after it

612
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:49,120
is over

613
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:55,990
to where the experience began

614
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:59,039
um i asked now how

615
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:00,400
real

616
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,120
was that for you

617
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,200
was it a real

618
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,880
experience

619
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:07,919
were you

620
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:10,640
aware of many details

621
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:12,960
were you aware of having

622
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:16,799
various thoughts and emotions

623
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:19,279
and typically the person

624
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,120
yes

625
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,760
it was real i know

626
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:25,679
now that that

627
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:28,559
was something i really experienced

628
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,200
excuse me have to clear my throat yeah

629
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:33,039
yeah i was going to ask you another

630
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,960
question which is

631
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,200
you know i i i

632
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:39,279
i'm kind of like i know you you had

633
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,240
grant cameron uh

634
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:44,320
do the forward to your book meet the

635
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:46,880
hybrids

636
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:49,760
i i have been kind of like a journey

637
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:52,400
like him i started being a nuts and

638
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,279
bolts guy and i never thought about the

639
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,279
other the spiritual side of it or the

640
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,559
consciousness side of it but i'm

641
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,000
starting to become more interested in

642
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:02,080
that because people like grant cameron

643
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,440
and so many others

644
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:05,039
are saying it's consciousness it's

645
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,559
consciousness and i feel like you're

646
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,159
kind of like an astronaut in there with

647
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:10,400
hypnosis going through these people's

648
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,440
conscious or unconscious thoughts

649
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:16,000
to try to pull the proof of of what

650
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:17,360
happened to them

651
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,080
but

652
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:20,159
a question that i always have is

653
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,840
for everybody that does this abduction

654
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,679
research there are people who claim they

655
00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:27,520
get abducted every day we're on a

656
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:30,120
regular basis where them and their

657
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,679
grandchildren like a whole family line

658
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,679
experiences this

659
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:38,159
so well the question and i the question

660
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,159
that i always have is

661
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:42,640
almost none of these people

662
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:45,200
except for a very few famous cases like

663
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:47,120
travis walton or the barney and betty

664
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,640
hill case

665
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,240
they don't really have any proof

666
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:52,880
whatsoever it to me and to a lot of

667
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,760
people it's a nice story but why don't

668
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,440
if they're abducted on a regular basis

669
00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:59,120
why don't they set up cameras why

670
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:01,679
doesn't somebody study them and watch

671
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:04,799
them and document them being taken that

672
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,679
would be

673
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,679
like the biggest groundbreaking

674
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,679
discovery in the world if somebody

675
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,919
proved that aliens were coming into

676
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,919
these people's bedroom in the middle of

677
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,440
the night and taking them aboard a

678
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,039
flying saucer

679
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,200
why doesn't anybody set up cameras why

680
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:21,200
don't they try to document their

681
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,640
experience

682
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:25,039
and get something

683
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,159
they have

684
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:28,480
tried to set up cameras

685
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,600
still cameras and video cameras i know

686
00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:33,520
people who have done that

687
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,399
and done it tried it many many times

688
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,159
what happens

689
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,880
is that when the beings come

690
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:42,640
to them

691
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,320
the video cameras don't work

692
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,960
in other words they have a way of

693
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:50,960
turning them off

694
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,960
i don't know whether they deliberately

695
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,240
turn them off

696
00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:58,000
or whether

697
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,600
just the energy that they come with

698
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,679
turns off the cameras

699
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:05,520
and the video cams

700
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:06,960
so yeah there

701
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,840
are cases many cases where people have

702
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:11,520
tried to do that

703
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,600
um also there's one video that i saw a

704
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:17,679
few years ago

705
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,559
we set up facing the bed

706
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,480
and there was a little bit of light in

707
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,159
the room so it could have caught

708
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:26,080
something happening

709
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:27,919
and instead of that

710
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,520
video camcorder being turned off

711
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:33,679
all you see

712
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:35,200
is

713
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:41,039
battery shape

714
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:42,880
moving across

715
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,440
the lens of the camera

716
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:47,120
in other words a black

717
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:50,240
shape moving across the bed

718
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:53,679
where the people the person was sleeping

719
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:56,480
so it didn't really show anything that

720
00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:00,000
you can say substantially oh that was an

721
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,120
alien

722
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:03,440
abducting the person

723
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:06,960
but you know there are many clues

724
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,760
that a person has had something very

725
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,200
unusual

726
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,120
happening to them

727
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:15,360
for the main one

728
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,159
is the implant

729
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:20,880
little objects that are put inside

730
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,760
people who experience

731
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,520
so that is that is something that is

732
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,600
fascinating to me because when they do

733
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:29,840
the analysis on some of that stuff have

734
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,159
you seen this uh film patient 17

735
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:36,080
it follows one of those people that have

736
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,960
had the uh i think it was dr

737
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,480
leer

738
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:43,039
dr roger later yeah it follows one of

739
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,279
his patients who has had one of these

740
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,200
implants removed

741
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,760
and what a fascinating film that is just

742
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:51,600
amazing

743
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,039
yes and i was there

744
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:57,840
present for

745
00:30:03,110 --> 00:29:59,840
two different days

746
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:03,120
when he actually surgically removed

747
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,640
the implants

748
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:07,120
or one of his fellow colleague

749
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:10,320
surgeons removed them

750
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:12,799
so i was right there to see

751
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:15,600
these little objects firsthand

752
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,320
and

753
00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:18,480
they were removed from people

754
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:21,320
who were convinced that they were having

755
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,039
extraterrestrial encounters

756
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:28,080
now these implants were sent off

757
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:29,120
to

758
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,720
several different

759
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,360
scientific laboratories to be

760
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:35,440
analyzed

761
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:38,320
and what was found from those

762
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:39,760
analyses

763
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,919
was that

764
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:43,679
some of the elements

765
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,399
in the implant were elements that we

766
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,720
have here on earth

767
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,720
but there is usually

768
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,480
one or more

769
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:54,480
element

770
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,919
that we do not have here on earth

771
00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:00,240
so i think that's

772
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,360
a pretty

773
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:03,279
suggestive

774
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,360
element there about

775
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:07,279
this season coming from

776
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:09,279
somewhere else

777
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:10,720
also

778
00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:13,840
people who experience these encounters

779
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:16,080
very frequently will have

780
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:19,120
a variety of markings

781
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:22,240
left on their physical bodies

782
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,200
after one of these experiences

783
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,120
there might be little

784
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:29,600
bruise marks that look like they were

785
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:30,720
made by

786
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,919
the tips of fingers

787
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,679
or there might be

788
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:38,080
like a straight line

789
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,519
little white scar i've seen that on two

790
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:42,960
of my people

791
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:46,559
on the inside of the forearm

792
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:49,279
and there are little markings that look

793
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,640
like little pinprick marks

794
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,440
in the shape of a triangle

795
00:32:03,350 --> 00:31:57,600
or a circle

796
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:03,360
ring around it

797
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,320
and there are triangular

798
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,480
bruise marks sometimes

799
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:10,399
over the navel

800
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,960
of the person particularly

801
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:15,120
a woman

802
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:16,960
so

803
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:19,360
you know there really are indications

804
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:20,240
that

805
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,320
something actually happened

806
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:26,640
during that time that the person

807
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:30,559
had had the visit or had been aware of

808
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:34,240
something very unusual happening

809
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:35,200
so

810
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:36,720
i have to take it back you're right

811
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,039
there is there is some physical proof of

812
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,519
alien abductions for sure i forgot about

813
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:43,440
i totally forgot about roger lear and

814
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:46,000
the implants and i've heard of these

815
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,279
markings being similar on abductees

816
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:51,200
from a few different sources do you

817
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,320
think that's

818
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,240
an indication that they're undergoing

819
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,919
the same sort of medical procedures

820
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,039
well

821
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:01,840
yes i think that the markings

822
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:03,760
are either

823
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,799
signifying like the little bruise marks

824
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,480
signifying that

825
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:10,960
they were taken

826
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:11,679
and

827
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:13,200
thinkers

828
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:16,080
of some sort were actually

829
00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:18,960
lifting them or guiding them

830
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,519
and i think that the little pinprick

831
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,039
marks

832
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,200
left and they're always in a pattern

833
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:27,519
it's not just a scattering

834
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,480
um

835
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:31,440
that they so that some

836
00:33:42,250 --> 00:33:38,950
under where those pinprick marks are

837
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,260
or the triangular bruises

838
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:43,679
[Applause]

839
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,440
so it all goes together

840
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,159
and it's very very typical for an

841
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,559
experiencer to have

842
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,480
some of these markings

843
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,799
left on the body after one of these

844
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,159
experiences

845
00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:59,679
there also

846
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:01,919
is an indication

847
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,360
a thing called fluorescence

848
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:07,200
in other words

849
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:10,159
if you run a black light

850
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,639
which is an instrument that we can get

851
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,879
fairly easily

852
00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:16,399
hard to restore

853
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:18,639
if you run it like myself i definitely

854
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:21,280
have some myself from my shoes

855
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,480
oh okay

856
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:25,280
so if you run a black line

857
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:28,639
over an experiencer person's

858
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:32,800
arms or legs or torso

859
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:35,839
if they have recently had

860
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:39,280
an extraterrestrial encounter

861
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:40,079
then

862
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:41,200
some

863
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:42,320
colored

864
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:43,919
florescence

865
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:46,079
actually appears

866
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:49,040
on the skin which you don't see unless a

867
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:50,320
black light

868
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:54,000
is shining upon it so i've seen these on

869
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,000
some of my people

870
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:58,400
my clients and my

871
00:35:02,630 --> 00:34:59,839
group people

872
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,640
and the fluorescence might be

873
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,040
a light blue

874
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:08,160
or a green or a purple

875
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:11,200
or a yellow or a white

876
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:13,280
i've seen those colors

877
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:14,800
on people

878
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,680
and

879
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,359
also

880
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:19,680
there's a method of

881
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,520
detecting

882
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:24,000
if there is an implant

883
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:26,800
particularly a metal implant

884
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:29,520
inside someone's body

885
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:32,960
by running a stud finder

886
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,359
like a carpenter would use

887
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:37,280
a house builder

888
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,720
running a filter over

889
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:41,839
the body

890
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,920
little metal object inside

891
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,320
the step side finder

892
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:52,960
will register that

893
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:55,119
and then of course people sometimes go

894
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:56,880
to the doctor

895
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,880
for some other reason and to have an

896
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:00,400
x-ray

897
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,839
shows

898
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:05,119
a little

899
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:08,880
white dot

900
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:12,640
in the x-ray so i have seen x-rays

901
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:13,520
from

902
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:16,320
people who experience these encounters

903
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:17,760
and i've seen

904
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:21,440
the little dot another would see implant

905
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:24,720
in a jaw bone

906
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:28,160
and then in another case in a tooth

907
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:31,839
in an elbow and an upper arm and a

908
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,280
forearm and a wrist in a hand between

909
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,160
fingers between toes

910
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:41,599
in the legs in the abdomen

911
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:45,839
and there's another indication too

912
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,400
which we call a scoop

913
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:49,920
mark

914
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:52,560
and i've seen these in several people

915
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:53,760
probably about

916
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:56,400
10 different individuals

917
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:57,839
over time

918
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:00,480
it looks like

919
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,280
somebody took a tiny

920
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:06,240
little melon scoop

921
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:07,520
instrument

922
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:10,480
and scooped out some flesh

923
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,640
from the person

924
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,119
i've seen this mostly

925
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,359
on people's legs

926
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,200
like in the calf

927
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:21,040
area of the leg

928
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:25,119
or in the side of the upper spine

929
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:28,079
once in a while from an arm or somewhere

930
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,119
else

931
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,680
and what we think

932
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:33,520
is that

933
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:37,839
that little bit of flesh taken

934
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,520
apparently by the extraterrestrials

935
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:43,520
is combined

936
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:46,720
with an implant

937
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,000
in their own time and place and then in

938
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,160
another abduction

939
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:55,200
that implant is planted

940
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,000
into the person's body

941
00:38:02,069 --> 00:38:00,160
so in other words with that little bit

942
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:02,079
of flesh

943
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:05,280
having been adhered to the implant

944
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,640
the implant does not get rejected

945
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,640
by that person

946
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:12,960
it's a very utter system when you think

947
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,480
about it

948
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,320
yeah i've heard that before so that's

949
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,640
the reason why this these people can

950
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:20,160
have foreign

951
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,359
entity

952
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:23,760
or foreign matter in their body and the

953
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:26,079
immune system just lets it happen

954
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,240
you know the the other big question that

955
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:30,320
i want to ask you because i ask

956
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,359
everybody

957
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,720
who's

958
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,800
really knowledgeable about

959
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:36,960
alien abductions

960
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:38,000
i

961
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:42,079
them

962
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,560
is stephen greer and he

963
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,280
has a theory that i like to

964
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:49,760
i i just it drives me crazy when i hear

965
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,280
him say

966
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:53,280
there's no such thing as

967
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,560
you know

968
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:56,880
benevolent extraterrestrials they're all

969
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,040
benevolent they're all good

970
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:01,359
because yeah i don't know how you square

971
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:04,000
that with the all this alien abduction

972
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:05,760
stuff it doesn't sound very benevolent

973
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:07,359
to me to be taking people from their

974
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,880
homes in the middle of the night over

975
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,720
and over again and conducting some kind

976
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,480
of experiments on them

977
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:14,960
now his explanation is some kind of

978
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,320
crazy story about my labs which i went

979
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,000
down that rabbit hole and didn't get

980
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,400
very far because it sounds bizarre to me

981
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,560
that this the government faking these

982
00:39:27,310 --> 00:39:25,920
things

983
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,320
so that people are afraid of

984
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,359
extraterrestrials or

985
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,440
you know they can have a false flag

986
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,119
event someday

987
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,359
what do you say to people who

988
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:37,599
deal in absolutes like that do you think

989
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:38,320
that

990
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,400
beings abducting these people are

991
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,320
benevolent

992
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:46,640
well first of all i think it's very

993
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,920
important to

994
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,280
establish

995
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,599
that there are many

996
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,599
many many

997
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:55,200
different kinds

998
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,839
of extraterrestrial beings

999
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:59,599
presumably from

1000
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:00,800
many many

1001
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:02,320
planets

1002
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:03,359
and

1003
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,240
so

1004
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:06,800
we cannot really generalize

1005
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,079
i think it's totally incorrect to say

1006
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,040
all aliens are malevolent or all aliens

1007
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,520
are benevolent because there are so many

1008
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:16,960
different fights

1009
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,079
with so many different agendas

1010
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,200
and i've concluded this because

1011
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:25,280
of about

1012
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:27,760
2 800

1013
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,400
regressions that i've done

1014
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:32,880
sometimes people have lived close enough

1015
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:37,200
to me to come for 20 or 30 or 40 or 50

1016
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:38,720
regressions

1017
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,079
than there are people who've come to me

1018
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,560
but anyway i've learned a lot from these

1019
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,640
regressions and

1020
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,000
clearly

1021
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:53,520
there is a huge variety of beings

1022
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:56,880
that come and interact with people

1023
00:41:03,589 --> 00:40:59,200
some of the beings

1024
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:04,950
are

1025
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:07,440
morse what we could call

1026
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:10,079
self-serving

1027
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:13,520
and we tend to think that of the

1028
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:15,920
little short gray beings with a great

1029
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:17,520
big black eye

1030
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:20,000
do a lot of experimenting with people

1031
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:20,960
and

1032
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:31,520
they seem to be not that they are

1033
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,280
deliberately malevolent but they are

1034
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,079
serving themselves

1035
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,800
more than serving people

1036
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,640
because they

1037
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,880
have lost their ability

1038
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:46,480
to do

1039
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:50,240
and they feel that they need to create

1040
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,920
hybrid beings

1041
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:53,440
hybrids with

1042
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,359
their material and

1043
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,000
our cube

1044
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,640
in order to save their race

1045
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:03,599
so that's just one kind of many many

1046
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:04,480
kind

1047
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:05,440
um

1048
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:08,400
many of the beings seem to be

1049
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,119
what we might call neutral

1050
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,520
from a human point of view

1051
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:16,400
um they are very very interested in

1052
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,319
humans and they are

1053
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:20,480
learning what they can

1054
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,920
about humans by doing these abductions

1055
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:25,119
and

1056
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,960
in many cases

1057
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,960
there is an advantage

1058
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:30,800
to the human

1059
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:33,040
being abducted because

1060
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,800
some of these being

1061
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,800
actually physically

1062
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,640
healed them

1063
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,920
of

1064
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:42,079
distance that they have not been able to

1065
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:42,880
get

1066
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:45,440
feeling for

1067
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:46,720
earth

1068
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:49,040
from medical doctors

1069
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,280
so there is a lot of healing that goes

1070
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:53,760
on of people

1071
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,119
when they have done physical exams

1072
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:59,040
and the beings

1073
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,200
have determined that oh this person has

1074
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:03,520
a problem with the heart and they will

1075
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,640
go ahead

1076
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:06,640
and do healing

1077
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:09,200
on the heart i have quite a number of

1078
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:10,839
cases of

1079
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,760
extraterrestrial healing

1080
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:15,680
that's come through my

1081
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:18,079
my practice and then

1082
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:25,190
benevolent

1083
00:43:32,349 --> 00:43:29,839
conscious

1084
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:32,359
spiritually oriented

1085
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:34,720
extraterrestrial beings

1086
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,520
and

1087
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:37,680
not only do healing

1088
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:41,599
but they teach people to do healing

1089
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:44,319
so the person can come back and heal

1090
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,280
others

1091
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:47,040
on earth

1092
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,560
they teach them

1093
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,560
a lot of

1094
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:53,440
universal perspective and

1095
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,160
healing perspective

1096
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,000
they teach them

1097
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:00,800
psychic skills too

1098
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:03,920
of a variety of psychic skills how to

1099
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:06,480
move things with their minds

1100
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:09,440
how to converse

1101
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:16,069
all kinds of psychic skills

1102
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,119
and so

1103
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:19,920
we consider those beings

1104
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:20,839
very

1105
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,160
benevolent so i think that there are

1106
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,400
many many different types

1107
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,319
and i have

1108
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:30,960
not known personally

1109
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:34,079
of any extraterrestrial types who

1110
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,839
are

1111
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,480
deliberately

1112
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:39,040
trying to cause trouble

1113
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:42,240
or trying to hurt people

1114
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:43,599
even

1115
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,440
sometimes in

1116
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:47,920
some of the examinations

1117
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:51,040
that some of the beings do it may hurt a

1118
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,240
bit for

1119
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,240
a little while

1120
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:56,240
also people who

1121
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,000
are being hurt

1122
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:00,800
during a physical examination

1123
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,680
they register that they are being hurt

1124
00:45:07,630 --> 00:45:06,079
and there's always

1125
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,640
a being

1126
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,599
extraterrestrial being

1127
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,359
standing by

1128
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:13,440
the side of the table

1129
00:45:16,829 --> 00:45:15,920
that the person is lying on

1130
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:16,839
in this

1131
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:20,000
experience and that being

1132
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:21,680
simply

1133
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,319
calms the person down

1134
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,200
maybe even touches the arm

1135
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,119
or the shoulder

1136
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:31,200
of the person lying there

1137
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,800
and the immediate person immediately

1138
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,000
feels

1139
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:38,960
a receiving of the pain

1140
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:43,599
and also feels much more calm

1141
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:45,680
so even the ones

1142
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:48,000
creating a little hurt

1143
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:50,319
in the examination

1144
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:51,200
they

1145
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,920
compensate for this by having the

1146
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:55,119
healing

1147
00:45:59,309 --> 00:45:58,240
type of being the calming nurturing

1148
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:59,319
healing

1149
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:01,599
extraterrestrial being

1150
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,079
being right there to to help the person

1151
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,920
it's there's so many

1152
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:09,680
aspects to this

1153
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,640
it's it's really quite amazing

1154
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,960
now some of the beings

1155
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:16,480
the more

1156
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,920
positive

1157
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,160
benevolent beings

1158
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:22,240
are members

1159
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,200
of a gigantic

1160
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:27,119
organization

1161
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,880
in the cosmos

1162
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,440
and this organization has been

1163
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:33,839
called the galactic

1164
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:36,160
federation

1165
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:39,040
and also called other names similar to

1166
00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:40,160
that

1167
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,920
and they talk about this federation

1168
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:45,839
being made up of

1169
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,520
many many maybe even thousands

1170
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:52,400
of different species

1171
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,119
from different planets

1172
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:57,760
and these different species gather

1173
00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:59,119
together

1174
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:02,560
for allowed a large council

1175
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:03,920
meeting

1176
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:06,960
and i sort of liken it to

1177
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,760
our

1178
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,680
united nations

1179
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:11,440
here on earth

1180
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,240
that many of the leading nations

1181
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:15,760
are a member

1182
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:18,240
of our united nations

1183
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:19,040
and

1184
00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:20,559
some countries

1185
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,839
are not

1186
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,960
members of this

1187
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,800
united nations

1188
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,119
i believe it's the same

1189
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,160
with his federation in faith

1190
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:34,400
that many many members

1191
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:36,960
come from different planets but some

1192
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,480
planets have species of beings that are

1193
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,119
considered rogue

1194
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,000
beings and are not

1195
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:48,720
allowed to be in that

1196
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:51,599
huge federation

1197
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,319
because they wouldn't comply

1198
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,119
with the rules and the spirit

1199
00:48:02,069 --> 00:47:59,520
of that federation

1200
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:02,079
the good thing is that there are

1201
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,760
many many being many species

1202
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,440
in the federation

1203
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:09,040
who are

1204
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:11,920
trying to improve

1205
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,040
life in the cosmos

1206
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:17,520
so there may be a planet that

1207
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,240
where the beings are behaving

1208
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:22,559
difficultly

1209
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:24,559
negatively

1210
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,270
indeed and they will go and try to help

1211
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,040
improve things

1212
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:36,240
also many of these species

1213
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:39,520
are extremely interested

1214
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,920
in planet earth

1215
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:44,400
and in humanity

1216
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,760
and they

1217
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,040
want to

1218
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:49,119
help us first of all they're

1219
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:50,800
studying us

1220
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:53,200
and they're observing us

1221
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,079
and they're coming in their ufos

1222
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:57,920
all over the world

1223
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,880
and when they come in the ufos they have

1224
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:03,520
the mechanisms for

1225
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,040
knowing a lot about us

1226
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:10,160
also i have been very impressed

1227
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:11,520
with the being

1228
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:13,040
way out there

1229
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:14,960
on other planets

1230
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,200
who remotely know

1231
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,119
a tremendous amount

1232
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:21,760
about us human beings

1233
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,880
and about particular

1234
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:27,119
human beings

1235
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:28,559
they know

1236
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:32,640
interested in

1237
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:35,920
they know what we're impassioned about

1238
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,359
uh they know what we actually do

1239
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:41,680
for many of our activities

1240
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:44,079
they know about our spiritual

1241
00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:45,359
development

1242
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,880
depending on whom you're talking about

1243
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:54,720
and

1244
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,359
they know our interests

1245
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:59,359
and our passions

1246
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:01,599
and our training

1247
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:04,640
and many of these beings who know so

1248
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:06,079
much more

1249
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:09,040
than we do about many things

1250
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,880
they download information

1251
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,880
into the minds

1252
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,640
of people

1253
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:18,079
for instance

1254
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:20,079
scientists

1255
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,359
and inventors

1256
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,440
of mechanics

1257
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,000
mechanical engineers

1258
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:30,400
so that some of our

1259
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:33,920
really remarkable inventions

1260
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,839
have been

1261
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:37,839
stimulated

1262
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:40,559
by the downloading of information

1263
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,680
from some of these extraterrestrial

1264
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:45,359
beings

1265
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:48,480
and i i think that's quite remarkable

1266
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,359
even

1267
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:50,960
music

1268
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,640
and art

1269
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,559
has been stimulated

1270
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:56,400
by downloads

1271
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:59,280
from some of these extraterrestrial

1272
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,800
meetings

1273
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:03,119
so i've had a client

1274
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,160
who

1275
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,160
had experiences

1276
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,400
where they would so

1277
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:10,720
deeply asleep

1278
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:13,520
while being downvoted

1279
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:16,480
that whoever was nearby

1280
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,280
absolutely could not wake them up

1281
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,880
but

1282
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:23,760
they

1283
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,280
sleep and

1284
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,599
concentrating

1285
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:29,440
on this material that was being

1286
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,119
downloaded

1287
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,200
that they really couldn't be

1288
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:35,359
aroused and even

1289
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:38,559
to leave a burning house

1290
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,319
in one case

1291
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:42,720
uh the man couldn't be as well like this

1292
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:45,839
downloading this information so

1293
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:47,599
fortunately he had other people that

1294
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,400
were dragging out of a house

1295
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,720
escape from the fire

1296
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:54,480
uh so that's

1297
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,400
phenomenon

1298
00:52:01,270 --> 00:51:58,880
well you know the other the other thing

1299
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:01,280
that i we definitely want to get into

1300
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,880
because your latest book

1301
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,880
is called meet the hybrids and they

1302
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:06,079
everybody could

1303
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,440
search

1304
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,760
for meet the hybrids and get the book on

1305
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:11,599
amazon.com

1306
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,680
i uh honestly when before i got it and

1307
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:17,520
read it i thought

1308
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:18,640
this is

1309
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,480
really going to be

1310
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:21,680
uh

1311
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:22,720
not

1312
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,359
something i would usually believe

1313
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,000
but yeah i decided that i couldn't do

1314
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,800
that i had to have a very open mind

1315
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:32,640
and

1316
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:37,599
more convinced that there is something

1317
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:38,720
to

1318
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,240
even this alien et hybrid

1319
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:45,040
human e.t hybrid phenomenon because i've

1320
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,000
heard honestly i

1321
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,400
have heard people that made these claims

1322
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:52,880
that make videos on youtube and write

1323
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:54,960
stuff and i just

1324
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,400
find it to be

1325
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:58,160
highly suspect

1326
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:59,040
because

1327
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:00,720
listen you have a background in

1328
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:03,359
psychology so one of the things i wanted

1329
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:05,440
to ask you about these people making

1330
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:08,319
claims that their e.t hybrids

1331
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:11,760
is isn't it convenient escape or could

1332
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,520
be for people i mean

1333
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,880
it could be

1334
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,760
because

1335
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,599
you know like some people feel so

1336
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,000
ordinary so invisible or unimportant

1337
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,240
that from a psychological point of view

1338
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:26,640
creating a delusion like this can be an

1339
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,720
escape or a defense mechanism for the

1340
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:31,040
ego they could they could say see look

1341
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:33,440
i'm special and don't you think that

1342
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:34,880
some of these people are just making

1343
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,280
these claims up or somewhat delusional

1344
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:39,760
or attention speed seeking

1345
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:43,680
i think that's very possible and after

1346
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:52,309
several people have come to me

1347
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:53,440
since then

1348
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:56,240
saying oh i think i'm a hybrid and then

1349
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:57,280
i ask

1350
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:00,319
why do you think that you're a hybrid

1351
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:03,920
and if it just sounds like an extremely

1352
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:07,359
superficial thing oh because

1353
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:08,839
i'm special

1354
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:11,760
or um

1355
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,319
i get communications from these beings

1356
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,400
or something you know without anything

1357
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:18,640
really substantial

1358
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:20,559
i i definitely

1359
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,839
wonder i'm not one to just jump

1360
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:25,760
into believing

1361
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,839
that someone is a hybrid

1362
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:29,359
you know unless they have really good

1363
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:30,319
reason

1364
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:33,440
to think it but with the people

1365
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:36,079
whom miguel mendanza

1366
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:37,040
and

1367
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,720
meet the hybrids book

1368
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:44,240
we spent

1369
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:46,960
six to eight hours

1370
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:49,760
carefully interviewing each one of those

1371
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:53,760
people who claim to be hybrids

1372
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:54,799
and

1373
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:57,599
asking them loads of questions

1374
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,960
and

1375
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:00,160
we came

1376
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:01,680
convinced

1377
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:05,440
that they were hybrids because

1378
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:06,720
they had

1379
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:10,000
certain characteristics in common

1380
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:11,760
for instance

1381
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,559
each one of them independently from each

1382
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:16,160
other

1383
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:19,440
always believed from the earliest

1384
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,000
recollections of childhood

1385
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,480
they always felt that they were very

1386
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:25,839
different

1387
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,319
than anybody here

1388
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,640
very different from anybody

1389
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:33,200
even in their own families

1390
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,079
and they all felt that their human

1391
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:38,000
parents

1392
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,760
they felt like somehow

1393
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:45,680
they came from

1394
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:49,520
out there in space and that their true

1395
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,640
home

1396
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:52,480
their true family

1397
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,599
was out there in space

1398
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:57,839
they all noticed who

1399
00:56:02,710 --> 00:55:58,640
that

1400
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,720
they had remarkable psychic abilities

1401
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:05,680
from their earliest recollection

1402
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:09,200
they immediately began the aurors

1403
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:10,960
about people

1404
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:14,559
they had many many psychic skills

1405
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,040
still do here again i'm going to stop

1406
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:19,280
you on the psychic skills because

1407
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:22,559
remember i mentioned i do magic shows

1408
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:23,680
and

1409
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,880
one of the problems that i have with

1410
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:27,440
people that claim psychic powers is that

1411
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:29,599
no one will be tested

1412
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,760
they will not accept a test of their

1413
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:34,079
so-called psychic abilities especially

1414
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:35,040
not

1415
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,359
in front of someone like me

1416
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:40,079
because like james randy has debunked a

1417
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:41,760
thousand psychics

1418
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,400
there was a million dollar prize

1419
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,559
from magician and you know really

1420
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:48,720
professional skeptic and debunker james

1421
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,440
randy the james randy foundation he

1422
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:54,160
would give anybody who could prove

1423
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,079
supernatural or psychic abilities the

1424
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:58,160
million dollars and a bunch of people

1425
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,920
took the test and nobody ever got the

1426
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,359
money

1427
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,280
so well one of the things i want to ask

1428
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:05,040
you is you're making these claims like

1429
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:06,480
all these people have these psychic

1430
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:09,680
powers did you or your co-author test

1431
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,079
any of these psychic abilities

1432
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,960
well we didn't stand them up for a test

1433
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:16,400
per se

1434
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:18,079
but

1435
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:20,079
what we experienced

1436
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:21,680
in the interviews

1437
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:24,160
and in knowing them personally most of

1438
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:25,440
them

1439
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,760
they

1440
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:30,799
could

1441
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,760
tell

1442
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,359
they knew

1443
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:35,040
accurately

1444
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,280
what we were thinking and would give

1445
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:39,599
feedback about that

1446
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:41,119
they also

1447
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,400
saw

1448
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:45,119
other dimensional beings

1449
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:46,480
around us

1450
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:47,839
in person

1451
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,559
and when we had the skype

1452
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,319
interviews

1453
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,880
so they could actually see us

1454
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:57,040
and see what was going on

1455
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,400
around us

1456
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:01,440
um they could see our auras changing the

1457
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,559
colors

1458
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:04,160
uh there were

1459
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:06,799
lots of different indications

1460
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:09,920
that they were psychic they also

1461
00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:11,119
many of them

1462
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,680
have great skills at communicating

1463
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:16,480
telepathically with

1464
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:18,160
animals

1465
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:21,200
and when they would do this

1466
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:23,200
get information from

1467
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,000
someone's pet dog for instance

1468
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:29,040
and then tell the owner of the dog

1469
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,000
what had been communicated by the dog

1470
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:34,079
telepathically

1471
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,520
it always turned out to be extremely

1472
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:39,359
accurate

1473
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,720
from the point of view of the dog owner

1474
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:44,319
so there were just

1475
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:47,440
lots of things that we experienced

1476
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:49,119
from them without

1477
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,799
setting up a

1478
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:52,079
rigorous

1479
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:53,280
official

1480
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,559
test

1481
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,640
also these beings

1482
00:59:01,710 --> 00:58:58,720
these hybrids

1483
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:01,720
had a lifelong of

1484
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:04,640
extraterrestrial encounters

1485
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,680
with the type of beings who contributed

1486
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,599
their genetics

1487
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:11,359
to these people

1488
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,960
and they welcome they love

1489
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,880
these encounters

1490
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,400
with these beings

1491
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:20,400
no matter how different

1492
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,359
they look from us

1493
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:25,200
our hybrids

1494
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:29,119
really really enjoyed them and welcomed

1495
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:33,440
their visits and welcomed any trips any

1496
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:35,920
some people might call them abductions

1497
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,000
they don't call them abductions they

1498
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,559
they call them wonderful visits

1499
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:42,960
to the spacecraft

1500
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,599
or even to other planets

1501
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:47,599
in some cases

1502
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:54,470
it certainly seems

1503
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,559
highly suggestive

1504
00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:58,640
that they are different than the rest of

1505
01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:59,599
us

1506
01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:01,599
and that

1507
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,400
they actually have these

1508
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,480
extraterrestrial genetics

1509
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:08,640
now in one case

1510
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:11,440
you might be interested to hear this

1511
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:13,280
one of our hybrids

1512
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,680
was created in

1513
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:18,160
a different way

1514
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:20,319
her father

1515
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:23,359
happened to be part of a covert

1516
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:24,799
department

1517
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,839
within our

1518
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:29,200
government and that

1519
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:31,760
cover operation

1520
01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:33,119
had some

1521
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:36,799
genetic material from a real captured

1522
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:38,799
extraterrestrial

1523
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,000
from one of the ufo crashes

1524
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:44,319
and they combined

1525
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,680
the extraterrestrial genetics

1526
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:48,960
with

1527
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:50,720
the eggs

1528
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:51,760
from

1529
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:53,200
this person's

1530
01:01:01,470 --> 01:00:57,680
father

1531
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:01,480
created an embryo so partly

1532
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:03,359
extraterrestrial

1533
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:05,839
and partly

1534
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:07,119
human

1535
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:08,160
and

1536
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,079
they injected

1537
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:12,240
that or implanted

1538
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:16,000
that embryo into the mother

1539
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,640
in a situation in which she was

1540
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,079
drugged

1541
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:23,200
by the father and did not know

1542
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:25,200
what was happening

1543
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:28,079
so that embryo developed

1544
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:31,359
into a fetus and was carried full term

1545
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:34,000
by the mother and given birth

1546
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:36,839
in the regular way that we humans give

1547
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:40,960
birth and grew up in that family

1548
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:43,280
and it wasn't until

1549
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:45,119
that hybrid

1550
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:48,960
was 35 years old

1551
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:52,400
that her father told her

1552
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:54,799
about how she had been

1553
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:56,960
conceived

1554
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:58,960
and implanted

1555
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:00,559
and born

1556
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:03,520
and on the one hand for the woman

1557
01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:06,079
it was a great relief

1558
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:10,240
to know why you that she was a hybrid

1559
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:12,400
because she had experienced

1560
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:15,359
being so different than so many people

1561
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:18,880
and even some of her physiology

1562
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,880
was different from other people

1563
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:24,640
but on the other hand

1564
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:25,680
she

1565
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:27,680
resented that

1566
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:36,230
but she had so many

1567
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:40,000
wonderful skills and insight

1568
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:42,799
and was very very helpful

1569
01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:45,599
to other people who experienced

1570
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:46,839
these

1571
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:49,520
enclouders and so she

1572
01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:53,760
uh gave a wonderful life of service

1573
01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:57,039
unfortunately she died a few months ago

1574
01:03:02,150 --> 01:02:59,119
but she certainly

1575
01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:02,160
gave a lot of service to other people

1576
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:03,760
during the many

1577
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:05,280
he did live

1578
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,839
and that brings me to another subject is

1579
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:09,599
these people are claiming that they have

1580
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:12,240
alien genetics or dna

1581
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:15,200
but none of them will be tested and i've

1582
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:18,000
heard you know the reasons why the

1583
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:20,079
government will come and take them

1584
01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:20,880
or

1585
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:21,920
you know

1586
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,440
they don't want people to know the

1587
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:25,359
absolute truth

1588
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:27,520
but it just seems convenient to me that

1589
01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:30,000
these people are saying hey i'm i'm part

1590
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,839
alien and i have alien genetics and

1591
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:34,160
superhuman abilities but you can't test

1592
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:37,200
me on any of it especially not my dna i

1593
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:40,559
mean wouldn't a simple dna test find

1594
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:41,280
the

1595
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,200
well this is a very interesting subject

1596
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:49,760
and i've given a great deal of thought

1597
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:52,000
to it and talked to each of the hybrids

1598
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:53,119
about it

1599
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:55,920
too and i certainly understand

1600
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:59,520
why people would like to know the proof

1601
01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:01,440
through dna testing

1602
01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:06,559
but the dna testing that anybody can get

1603
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:09,920
i have found out officially

1604
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:12,960
that with each dna lab

1605
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:13,839
a

1606
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:27,200
government

1607
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:29,440
and

1608
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:31,599
the hybrids whom i know

1609
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:34,400
do not want that their

1610
01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:36,000
genetic material

1611
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:38,799
reported to the government for fear

1612
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:42,240
that if the government could detect

1613
01:04:44,789 --> 01:04:43,920
that some of it

1614
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:44,799
was

1615
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:46,960
extraterrestrial

1616
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:50,240
that they might be apprehended

1617
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:52,799
taken investigated

1618
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:55,119
dissected

1619
01:05:01,990 --> 01:04:59,280
as they have done with some alien beings

1620
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:02,000
um and they certainly do not want that

1621
01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:04,319
to happen

1622
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:05,119
so

1623
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:06,000
what

1624
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:08,240
well then i kind of have a challenge for

1625
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:10,160
you and i'm sure you can maybe get back

1626
01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:11,680
to me on this but what if i could find

1627
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:14,000
you an independent geneticist

1628
01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:15,760
who's qualified

1629
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,559
credentialed and will sign an nda with

1630
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:20,240
any of these people

1631
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,240
and uh do a dna test on them and agree

1632
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:26,720
in the nda or contract

1633
01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:29,520
not to disclose to anybody but

1634
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:32,160
you miss lamb me

1635
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,599
and the subject the results of the dna

1636
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:37,440
if i could get somebody to do that could

1637
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:40,400
you convince any of these people to uh

1638
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:43,359
take the test and we'll see the results

1639
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:45,119
i certainly try to

1640
01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:47,359
of course it would be up to them

1641
01:05:51,670 --> 01:05:49,200
because it's their own

1642
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:51,680
body involved

1643
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:55,359
all i'm asking you for is an opportunity

1644
01:05:58,630 --> 01:05:56,319
to

1645
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:58,640
give them an opportunity i've taken away

1646
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:01,119
the i don't want to call an excuse i've

1647
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,400
taken away

1648
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:04,720
the objection to the testing

1649
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:05,760
because

1650
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:07,760
quite honestly i'd love to see the dna

1651
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,359
test of each and every one of these

1652
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:11,599
people who would agree and i i

1653
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:13,280
understand it's their body they have to

1654
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:16,480
agree but it's a small thing to ask

1655
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,240
you know that saying fantastic uh

1656
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:22,880
claims require fantastic proof and what

1657
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:25,200
better proof what better proof than a

1658
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,240
dna analysis that shows

1659
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,960
dna that is not entirely human i mean

1660
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:33,119
any decent geneticist

1661
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:35,039
who has done dna tests will be able to

1662
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:37,920
do this happen to no one very good very

1663
01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:39,280
well respected

1664
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:42,799
and i'd love to offer your hybrids each

1665
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:44,880
and every one of them at no cost to them

1666
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:47,680
of course to do the tests so that they

1667
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:49,200
could see it and

1668
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,000
maybe we all could see it

1669
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:54,240
well that's a wonderful offer i

1670
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,000
appreciate it i would like to see it too

1671
01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:00,480
but i think that they would have to

1672
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:03,039
be convinced that whoever would be doing

1673
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:04,559
the testing

1674
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:07,440
would not share it with the government

1675
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:10,079
which might be difficult because

1676
01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:11,359
um

1677
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:12,839
it is

1678
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:15,920
mandatory i have understood from two or

1679
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,880
three different sources

1680
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:20,400
so

1681
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:23,440
i mean i'm open to the idea definitely

1682
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:25,520
and i'd like to see it now another

1683
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:26,880
factor

1684
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:28,640
is

1685
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:30,400
that

1686
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:31,680
if

1687
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:33,440
they found

1688
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:34,960
genetics

1689
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:35,760
that

1690
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,880
was extraterrestrial

1691
01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:41,280
if they had genetic markers that were

1692
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:43,920
extraterrestrial that means that they

1693
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:45,920
would have to

1694
01:07:50,270 --> 01:07:46,960
have

1695
01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:50,280
genetics from a real

1696
01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:52,720
extraterrestrial being

1697
01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:53,839
and

1698
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:57,039
that means they'd have to admit

1699
01:08:04,309 --> 01:08:01,119
that they have an extraterrestrial being

1700
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:04,319
in captivity either alive or

1701
01:08:09,670 --> 01:08:06,960
or dead and preserved

1702
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:09,680
and the government has been

1703
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:10,559
so

1704
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:13,440
covert about the whole thing

1705
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:15,680
it's difficult for me to imagine that

1706
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:16,880
they would

1707
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:20,400
actually admit to anybody

1708
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:22,239
that they have

1709
01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:25,120
real extraterrestrials genetics

1710
01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:26,799
you see what i mean

1711
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:27,920
yes but

1712
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,040
i guess

1713
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:31,600
if it's a if it's a private

1714
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,640
uh agreement between the two parties and

1715
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:36,319
again we can put in the contract that

1716
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:39,279
the person will not give the dna results

1717
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:41,199
or any of the information over to the

1718
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:42,719
government

1719
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,480
you know it's a private individual

1720
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:46,719
performing a test who has no

1721
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,679
he's not going to have a reason to

1722
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:51,520
either prove or disprove it he's just

1723
01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:53,120
going to do the tests and tell us what

1724
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:54,159
happens

1725
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:56,400
you know the government of sure i don't

1726
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:57,839
think the government would want to admit

1727
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,279
that we're talking about a private

1728
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,199
individual performing the tests and

1729
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:03,040
telling everybody

1730
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:04,560
what the results are

1731
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:06,400
well everybody involved we'll start with

1732
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,839
me you and each subject person

1733
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:11,679
if they well if

1734
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:14,480
yes if you could find that by all means

1735
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,120
let me know i mean i'm personally very

1736
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:19,120
open to the idea

1737
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:20,719
and

1738
01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:23,520
i i'm as i said i'm just sure that

1739
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,520
these hybrid people would need to be

1740
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:27,440
really convinced

1741
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:28,719
that

1742
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:29,600
the

1743
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:33,440
reported

1744
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,960
to that department of the government but

1745
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,359
see what you can do i'm open

1746
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:41,520
sure so we'll we'll leave that as an

1747
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:44,000
open subject and and i'll follow up with

1748
01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:44,880
you

1749
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:46,839
i guess the other question i would have

1750
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,640
is

1751
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:50,719
you mentioned one way in which the

1752
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:53,120
hybrids are created

1753
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:54,560
what are

1754
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:57,280
what is the process like is there sex

1755
01:10:03,189 --> 01:09:59,600
between an extraterrestrial and humans

1756
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:03,199
is it all done in vitro how

1757
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:06,640
how do they do it and and also why would

1758
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:09,199
an alien species want to create hybrids

1759
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:11,040
here

1760
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:12,320
well

1761
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,600
i have been

1762
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:15,360
aware of about

1763
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:16,880
16

1764
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:18,880
different reasons

1765
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:21,280
given by the extraterrestrials to my

1766
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:22,400
clients

1767
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:24,560
and this material has come out

1768
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:27,440
in various regressions

1769
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:30,960
one of the obvious ones is that

1770
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:32,800
well first of all

1771
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,000
right now i'm talking about the hybrids

1772
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,920
created who

1773
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,760
continue to live

1774
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:41,679
on the ufos

1775
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:45,840
they are not human enough looking

1776
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:47,440
and in

1777
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:48,960
physically

1778
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:50,400
to survive

1779
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:52,320
here on earth

1780
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:53,280
and

1781
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:56,480
it certainly seems like there are a lot

1782
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,679
of those hybrids who remain living on

1783
01:11:02,149 --> 01:11:00,960
their ship

1784
01:11:04,229 --> 01:11:02,159
though

1785
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:04,239
the extraterrestrials

1786
01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:05,520
old

1787
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:07,199
clients

1788
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:09,120
in these resins

1789
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,320
that

1790
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:12,640
in many cases they have lost their

1791
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:14,159
ability

1792
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:16,719
to reproduce

1793
01:11:21,350 --> 01:11:19,120
one of the reasons why over

1794
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:21,360
a millennia of time

1795
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,320
they've lost the ability to reproduce

1796
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,280
is because they have done so much

1797
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:29,280
blocking

1798
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:32,880
that they have lost the biological

1799
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:35,040
ability to naturally

1800
01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:36,719
reproduce

1801
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:38,640
and they want to

1802
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:48,550
one second let me see if i could adjust

1803
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,159
something here

1804
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:52,400
if you could just speak up i'm sorry

1805
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:56,080
you can go ahead yeah they want to

1806
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,040
continue their species going

1807
01:12:02,149 --> 01:12:01,280
and the way that they figure they can do

1808
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:02,159
that

1809
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:04,159
is to combine

1810
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:06,640
genetically reproductively

1811
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,480
with humans

1812
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,560
and create the e.t

1813
01:12:15,189 --> 01:12:12,880
human hybrids

1814
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:15,199
now some of them have lost the ability

1815
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:16,880
to reproduce

1816
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:17,760
by

1817
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:21,440
doing so much traveling in space

1818
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:24,080
in their spaceships and being

1819
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:25,920
affected by

1820
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:29,120
the masses of radiation

1821
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:31,920
in space

1822
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:33,280
some of them

1823
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:35,360
want to create

1824
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:40,229
in their hybrids

1825
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,880
in other words beings

1826
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,320
that could

1827
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,480
understand humans

1828
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:48,800
and could understand

1829
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:50,960
the extraterrestrial

1830
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:52,480
species

1831
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,360
and who could go back and forth

1832
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:56,880
that's why i say

1833
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,679
ambassadors go back and forth between

1834
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:00,880
earth

1835
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:08,640
to their planet and educate those beings

1836
01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:10,320
about humans

1837
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:15,430
forming a bridge

1838
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:18,480
between these different cultures

1839
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:20,719
from planet to planet

1840
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:22,480
there are a number of other reasons

1841
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:24,159
given too

1842
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:25,440
but

1843
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:29,040
importantly the hybrid

1844
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:30,480
interviewed

1845
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:34,400
who are living here on earth

1846
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:35,760
they are

1847
01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:38,080
regular people

1848
01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:43,120
uh who or from regular human parents

1849
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:44,840
who were

1850
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:47,920
influenced during life in the womb or

1851
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,960
before life in the womb

1852
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:51,840
by

1853
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:52,880
the

1854
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,320
terrestrials

1855
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:56,480
and given their genetics

1856
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,199
so in some cases

1857
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:01,280
for these hybrids

1858
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:02,159
the

1859
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,280
hybrid

1860
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:05,760
fetus was already growing in the

1861
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:08,239
mother's womb

1862
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:10,640
and the mother was taken for an

1863
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:12,880
encounter

1864
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:19,350
hypodermic knee needle

1865
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:22,239
through the wall of the stomach and the

1866
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:23,040
you

1867
01:14:27,390 --> 01:14:25,199
and into the fetus

1868
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:27,400
injected with the

1869
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:29,040
extraterrestrial

1870
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:30,960
genetics

1871
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:34,880
though that fetus became a hybrid

1872
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:36,560
at that point

1873
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:39,360
and was born in the normal human way

1874
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:41,040
and from

1875
01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:45,360
then on from the injection done

1876
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:47,600
in a hybrid

1877
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:51,440
in one case with one of our hybrids

1878
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:53,760
he was injected

1879
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:57,360
with the extraterrestrial genetics

1880
01:15:02,790 --> 01:14:59,920
when she was already

1881
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:02,800
six years old

1882
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:05,920
in other words she had been

1883
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:07,840
conceived and

1884
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:10,080
gestated in the mouth

1885
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,600
and born

1886
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:14,080
our normal human way

1887
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:17,679
and then lutheran at age six

1888
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:20,400
became the hybrid

1889
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:28,950
you with extraterrestrial genetics

1890
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:30,960
i'm referring to

1891
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:33,440
injections of several

1892
01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:35,600
different kinds

1893
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:36,840
of

1894
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:39,440
extraterrestrial these days

1895
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,520
so that all of the hybrids know

1896
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:44,640
have

1897
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:48,000
three or four or more

1898
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:49,600
different kinds

1899
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:50,400
of

1900
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:52,000
beings

1901
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:55,520
in their genetic

1902
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:56,320
they

1903
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,840
have life

1904
01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:59,360
orders

1905
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:01,360
with those types of

1906
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:02,560
who

1907
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:03,920
attributed

1908
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:09,830
wow so

1909
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,320
that i i i think is even more of a

1910
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:14,480
fantastic claim so then there would be

1911
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:16,640
some kind of genetic experiment bringing

1912
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:20,560
together four different species

1913
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:22,239
well i guess you could call it an

1914
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:23,840
experiment

1915
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:25,600
although they do seem to know what

1916
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:26,960
they're doing

1917
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:29,679
and those different species

1918
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:33,360
are species that work together

1919
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:36,480
some of them work together on the same

1920
01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:37,760
ship

1921
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:38,880
the same

1922
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:40,719
ufos

1923
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:43,199
some of them work together

1924
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:45,920
by visiting each other's planets

1925
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:48,400
or by telepathically

1926
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:50,400
working together

1927
01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:53,440
so they're beings that get along well

1928
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:55,360
together

1929
01:17:00,950 --> 01:16:58,480
some of these extraterrestrial beings

1930
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:00,960
who have given their genetics to the

1931
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:03,760
humans creating hybrids

1932
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,920
are reptilian

1933
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:07,440
beings

1934
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:09,760
now unfortunately

1935
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:12,400
there's a very bad wrap

1936
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:16,159
in our culture about reptilians

1937
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,440
some of them

1938
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:19,600
are considered to be

1939
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,239
very are hungry and very

1940
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:24,080
influential

1941
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:25,360
of

1942
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:32,229
i personally do not know about that i

1943
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:34,640
just hear about that from others

1944
01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,760
but some of the reptilian species

1945
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:39,600
are really much more

1946
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:42,400
likable from our point of view

1947
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:45,679
much more decent much more magnificent

1948
01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:48,480
much more helpful

1949
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:51,360
those are the kinds of reptilians

1950
01:17:59,669 --> 01:17:54,880
that have contributed their genetic

1951
01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:59,679
to these hybrids living on earth

1952
01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:01,600
well that's pretty amazing the other

1953
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,679
question i wanted to ask you is

1954
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:05,920
you saw these hybrids that you talked

1955
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:08,400
about in your book i mean even if it was

1956
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:11,440
through skype or pictures but

1957
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:12,960
can you tell us

1958
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:15,199
would you know from looking at them that

1959
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:16,960
something was a little off

1960
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:19,360
or would they completely and totally 100

1961
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,040
percent pass for human and you would

1962
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,520
never think anything was strange just

1963
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:25,440
looking at them

1964
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:29,520
well the first one i met

1965
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:30,960
had

1966
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,280
larger eyes

1967
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:35,760
than the rest of us and when i first saw

1968
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:36,719
her

1969
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:39,520
at a ufo conference

1970
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:41,520
i did a double take

1971
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:44,080
and and she said what like why was i

1972
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:47,440
looking so surprised and i said well

1973
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:51,040
i hope you don't mind by saying

1974
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:53,600
me of a hybrid

1975
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:56,560
and she said

1976
01:19:02,550 --> 01:18:59,840
good for you i am a hybrid

1977
01:19:04,709 --> 01:19:02,560
and then we i got to know her and i've

1978
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,719
known her for quite a number of years

1979
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:06,239
now

1980
01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:09,199
and i'm convinced that she is hybrid so

1981
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:11,920
the only one

1982
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:12,800
um

1983
01:19:17,350 --> 01:19:14,960
of the hybrids

1984
01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:17,360
who looked a little different

1985
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:18,320
to me

1986
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:20,080
the others looked like

1987
01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:22,800
regular human beings

1988
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:24,320
but i do

1989
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:26,800
certainly believe and accept

1990
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:28,159
that they have

1991
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:29,360
a certain

1992
01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:32,800
interesting genetics in them

1993
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,440
but they do have

1994
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:36,800
physiological differences

1995
01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:38,320
that don't

1996
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:40,400
apparently show

1997
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:42,960
one of them has a whole different

1998
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:46,239
bone consistency

1999
01:19:51,669 --> 01:19:49,679
one has a different shape

2000
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:51,679
of her thumbs

2001
01:19:57,910 --> 01:19:55,600
one has

2002
01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:57,920
different

2003
01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:00,080
that the rest of us

2004
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:01,360
have

2005
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:05,280
uh one of the young men hybrids

2006
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:08,320
in england has one of his

2007
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:10,880
lower internal organs

2008
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:13,440
up in his

2009
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:14,960
there are

2010
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:17,520
i'm sorry his lower inter what was that

2011
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:21,280
his lower internal organ is up where

2012
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:24,239
is somewhere in his chest

2013
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:27,440
okay okay that's true

2014
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:29,760
yes yes

2015
01:20:33,390 --> 01:20:31,440
one of them has

2016
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:33,400
different muscle

2017
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:36,000
consistency very weak

2018
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:37,280
muscles

2019
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:40,960
and he has been advised ever since early

2020
01:20:45,750 --> 01:20:42,320
childhood

2021
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:45,760
not to participate in any sports

2022
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:48,000
because her muscles just weren't strong

2023
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:49,920
enough

2024
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:52,080
so i mean they were there so these are

2025
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:53,520
things that don't

2026
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:54,560
show

2027
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:57,280
on the outside we would not see them

2028
01:21:02,390 --> 01:20:59,840
but they are nevertheless

2029
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:02,400
there in those people

2030
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,120
and the reason that they found them out

2031
01:21:07,990 --> 01:21:07,280
found out these differences

2032
01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:08,000
is

2033
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:09,440
having

2034
01:21:13,030 --> 01:21:10,960
regular

2035
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:13,040
reasons to go to the doctor like a

2036
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:16,239
broken bone or

2037
01:21:21,350 --> 01:21:18,719
the need for a blood test

2038
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:21,360
or something of that sort

2039
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:23,760
or you know the weak muscles the person

2040
01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:26,639
kept sort of collapsing

2041
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:28,960
and had to go to the doctor so these

2042
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:30,880
things were determined

2043
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:33,040
medically

2044
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:34,239
well and i

2045
01:21:39,830 --> 01:21:36,800
another question i wanted to ask is what

2046
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:39,840
do these people do with this after they

2047
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:42,159
are sure of this like if they if they

2048
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:43,280
really are

2049
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:45,760
an alien hybrid and a lot of them

2050
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:48,880
most of them claim to have these

2051
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:51,520
extra human abilities what do they do

2052
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:52,880
with it what do they do with the

2053
01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:54,639
knowledge of this and what do they do

2054
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:56,800
with these abilities

2055
01:22:01,830 --> 01:21:59,280
i'm so glad you asked that

2056
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:01,840
because the beings

2057
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:04,800
whose genetics are in these hybrids

2058
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:07,440
are all very very

2059
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:09,520
high consciousness

2060
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:12,080
spiritually

2061
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:15,120
of advanced beings

2062
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:17,440
very very benevolent

2063
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:21,520
and they want to help humanity

2064
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:23,520
to raise

2065
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:25,679
its consciousness

2066
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:27,840
they want humanity to become more

2067
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:29,199
spiritually

2068
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:30,480
aware

2069
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:31,600
not just

2070
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:33,840
physically materially

2071
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:35,040
3d

2072
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,760
aware as most people

2073
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:39,360
seem to be

2074
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:43,360
and since they cannot come themselves

2075
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:45,920
and survive on earth

2076
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:48,480
the next best way that they can

2077
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:49,360
help

2078
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:54,159
is to create these hybrids

2079
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:57,280
who will be inspired by them

2080
01:23:02,950 --> 01:22:59,199
and taught by them

2081
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:02,960
to do this upgrading of consciousness

2082
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:05,679
so each one of the hybrids

2083
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:09,280
in our book meet the hybrids

2084
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:10,719
each one of them

2085
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,520
is here for service

2086
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:15,760
inspired by

2087
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:18,000
the other beings

2088
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:19,440
and so

2089
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:21,520
they do healing

2090
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:24,320
and teaching self-healing

2091
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:25,360
and

2092
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:29,440
psychic skills

2093
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:30,880
uh

2094
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:34,239
increasing the spiritual perspective of

2095
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:35,600
these people

2096
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:36,960
so mostly

2097
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:39,760
they're doing private appointments

2098
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:41,840
like counseling type

2099
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:44,159
appointments but with a more spiritual

2100
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:45,280
nature

2101
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,719
and they do the healing they do classes

2102
01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:50,480
and workshops

2103
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:53,600
and in some cases give lectures

2104
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:55,440
so they consider

2105
01:24:03,510 --> 01:23:58,480
that they are really here to help

2106
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:03,520
any people who will come to them and

2107
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:05,199
isn't that a little bit like

2108
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:06,719
it's kind of the same thing i think

2109
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:08,880
about people who claim to be psychics or

2110
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:10,000
mediums

2111
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:12,480
i mean if you really had these abilities

2112
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:14,400
is it right to just try to profit from

2113
01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:15,199
them

2114
01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:16,639
because it sounds to me that's what

2115
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:18,239
they're doing running workshops for

2116
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:20,880
people who are interested in this stuff

2117
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:23,840
you know i'm sure it's not free to go

2118
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:25,280
see them

2119
01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:27,280
you know it's probably a convenient that

2120
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:30,159
they're just telling this story don't

2121
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:31,920
have proof and now they're profiting

2122
01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:33,920
from it

2123
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:36,320
well there is proof

2124
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,080
uh when they

2125
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:40,560
do uh psychically

2126
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:43,360
uh get a reading for the person

2127
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,120
there is proof when they actually heal

2128
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:48,880
the person

2129
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:55,199
how to do self-healing and it actually

2130
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:56,239
works

2131
01:25:01,350 --> 01:25:00,000
the healing actually does happen

2132
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:01,360
um

2133
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:04,629
they

2134
01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:06,800
give these services

2135
01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:09,199
and they have to earn a living they have

2136
01:25:14,070 --> 01:25:12,159
to survive here i no i understand i

2137
01:25:15,669 --> 01:25:14,080
understand that but as soon as as soon

2138
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,679
as i heard you talk about them taking

2139
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,360
money while claiming to be an

2140
01:25:21,910 --> 01:25:19,520
extraterrestrial hybrid

2141
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:21,920
and they haven't undergone the dna tests

2142
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:23,199
or

2143
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:27,440
so-called psychic abilities and then

2144
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:29,520
they're taking money from people

2145
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:32,159
i have a problem with that

2146
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:33,920
well i don't think that they're taking

2147
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:37,199
money because they say they're a hybrid

2148
01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:40,159
they make a money for

2149
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:41,679
the services

2150
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:43,840
that they render or the classes that

2151
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:45,040
they teach

2152
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:46,400
for instance

2153
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:48,480
a couple of them as i said

2154
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:50,800
are very accomplished

2155
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:53,360
animal communicators

2156
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:56,080
and so a person will come wondering what

2157
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:58,080
the problem is with

2158
01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:00,239
his dog for instance

2159
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:01,840
and

2160
01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:04,239
these hybrids will do

2161
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:07,120
communicating with the animals

2162
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:09,360
and and then it seems to make a big

2163
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,400
difference

2164
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:12,960
from the point of view of the owner

2165
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:16,400
of the animal so there's a few charts

2166
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:19,199
for that just like there's a fee to go

2167
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:24,080
to a counselor or a uh to go to a doctor

2168
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:25,600
i understand i'm more concerned with

2169
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:28,000
somebody making fantastic claims and

2170
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:30,560
then trying to profit from it you know

2171
01:26:37,030 --> 01:26:36,390
have another show debunking psychics and

2172
01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:37,040
and

2173
01:26:40,229 --> 01:26:38,159
mediums

2174
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:40,239
and you know people

2175
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:42,880
quite honestly i have never seen one

2176
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:45,440
person that could display any kind of

2177
01:26:50,709 --> 01:26:48,320
supernatural ability not not in front of

2178
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:50,719
me or a magician or somebody else that

2179
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:51,920
knows

2180
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:53,280
methods

2181
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,760
and sources for how to accomplish the

2182
01:27:01,350 --> 01:26:58,480
illusion of these things happening

2183
01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:01,360
so pardon my skepticism on some of the

2184
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:02,719
some of this stuff

2185
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:04,400
but it's such a fantastic

2186
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:05,840
and

2187
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,159
a book that i could not put down because

2188
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:10,639
i want to know more about these people

2189
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:13,679
are you planning a follow-up

2190
01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:16,840
no no i don't think so

2191
01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:18,639
um uh

2192
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:21,360
both miguel medanta and i have

2193
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:24,320
uh just gone on to other things in our

2194
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,040
own

2195
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:27,280
professional lives

2196
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:29,679
so i i don't think we will

2197
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:30,840
um if

2198
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:35,040
however uh we came to know of

2199
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:37,679
uh several more hybrids we might

2200
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:40,159
uh find time to do that but

2201
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:41,679
there are no plans

2202
01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:43,760
for that at the moment

2203
01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:45,440
and are you still in touch are you still

2204
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:47,280
in touch with each of the subjects in

2205
01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:49,120
your book

2206
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:52,080
well occasionally yes

2207
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:54,800
some of them more than others

2208
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,800
some of them i've gotten to know really

2209
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:58,320
well

2210
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,840
as people

2211
01:28:01,910 --> 01:28:01,040
some of them

2212
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:01,920
um

2213
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,120
oh let's see about

2214
01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:07,440
i guess only two of them who live in

2215
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:08,719
england

2216
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:11,679
i've i've never actually met

2217
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:13,920
but we've had phone conversations and

2218
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:16,639
then of course the long snipe

2219
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:19,199
interviews

2220
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:22,800
hybrids from england there's a third one

2221
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:25,679
i've spent quite a bit of time with

2222
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:27,360
a week

2223
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:31,360
here at a conference we shared a room

2224
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:35,040
and then i spent several days with her

2225
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:37,199
in

2226
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:42,320
phenomenon

2227
01:28:47,110 --> 01:28:45,760
and one of them a few times in

2228
01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:47,120
arizona

2229
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,239
and two others i've seen

2230
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,239
at various

2231
01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:54,480
organizational meetings

2232
01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:56,800
and had visits with

2233
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:58,719
which does bring me to another question

2234
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,920
from a

2235
01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:01,040
skeptical

2236
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,440
perspective if if these people are

2237
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:05,520
worried about the government

2238
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:07,760
you know finding their dna or taking

2239
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:09,199
them away

2240
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:11,040
isn't wouldn't it be counterproductive

2241
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:12,320
if you're worried about the government

2242
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:14,800
finding out about you to be in a book

2243
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:18,000
and seek you know publicity for

2244
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:20,960
what you're claiming

2245
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:23,040
well they don't seem to be bothered by

2246
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:25,440
that and as far as i know nobody has

2247
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:27,040
been hassled

2248
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:28,480
about that

2249
01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:30,400
who knows if that department of the

2250
01:29:35,590 --> 01:29:33,840
government even is aware of the book

2251
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:35,600
okay that was my that was my other

2252
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:37,520
question have any of them had any visits

2253
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:40,000
from the men in black or any

2254
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:41,840
any kind of uh

2255
01:29:46,870 --> 01:29:43,920
interaction with the government or the

2256
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:46,880
deep state or you know this shadowy

2257
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:48,320
group that people

2258
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:51,199
talk about like mj 12

2259
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,800
have they have any interaction with the

2260
01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:54,880
government at all

2261
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:57,120
not that i know of i think they would

2262
01:29:59,830 --> 01:29:58,560
have mentioned it

2263
01:30:02,950 --> 01:29:59,840
um

2264
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:02,960
during the interviews if if they had

2265
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:05,280
but i'm sure that they don't want that

2266
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:07,199
either

2267
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:10,000
yeah that would probably be bad for them

2268
01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:11,199
you don't you never know they could be

2269
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:13,679
dissected or studied or

2270
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:15,360
you know

2271
01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:18,320
that's true i suppose

2272
01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:20,719
that's the thing about the dna

2273
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:23,199
that you know that they

2274
01:30:29,750 --> 01:30:26,239
really are very very hesitant about

2275
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:29,760
so and i i can very much appreciate that

2276
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:32,080
i can also appreciate that

2277
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:35,600
people hearing about this like yourself

2278
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:37,679
would love to see proof

2279
01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:41,920
because it is quite a fantastic claim

2280
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:44,080
yes and that was my only that was my

2281
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:45,360
only uh

2282
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:47,040
i don't want to say complaint because i

2283
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:48,800
enjoyed the book that

2284
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,480
you guys wrote tremendously a lot more

2285
01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:52,320
than i thought i was gonna

2286
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:55,280
but i i still came away going

2287
01:31:00,390 --> 01:30:57,840
this is pretty compelling but it would

2288
01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:00,400
be a hundred times more compelling for

2289
01:31:04,470 --> 01:31:02,639
me if there was dna tests if there was

2290
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:04,480
any kind of scientific testing of all

2291
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:07,920
the psychic claims if there was any

2292
01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:09,120
you know

2293
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:11,120
nuts and bolts physical proof that we

2294
01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:12,239
could look at

2295
01:31:17,270 --> 01:31:14,320
to prove that these people

2296
01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:17,280
aren't just telling fairy tales

2297
01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:19,120
right well

2298
01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:20,960
because i certainly appreciate and i'm

2299
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:24,000
not being critical of you in particular

2300
01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:25,679
but i mean in general

2301
01:31:29,590 --> 01:31:27,760
there seems in the ufo field lately to

2302
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:29,600
be this

2303
01:31:35,189 --> 01:31:32,400
i just call it the fairy tale phenomenon

2304
01:31:37,830 --> 01:31:35,199
we have uh people like corey goode

2305
01:31:39,669 --> 01:31:37,840
and david wilcock running around

2306
01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:39,679
telling all these stories that can't be

2307
01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:42,080
proven or disproven

2308
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:42,840
now

2309
01:31:48,229 --> 01:31:46,000
yours uh it can be proven

2310
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,239
and the story of these hybrids it could

2311
01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:51,120
be proven with some very

2312
01:31:56,830 --> 01:31:55,199
basic testing so i'm a little more

2313
01:31:59,910 --> 01:31:56,840
uh

2314
01:32:03,030 --> 01:31:59,920
believing that there's something to what

2315
01:32:05,430 --> 01:32:03,040
you're working on absolutely but like i

2316
01:32:07,830 --> 01:32:05,440
said you go down the rabbit hole this

2317
01:32:09,910 --> 01:32:07,840
ufo thing and you see so many of these

2318
01:32:12,390 --> 01:32:09,920
people just telling stories

2319
01:32:13,750 --> 01:32:12,400
that after a while you do get to the

2320
01:32:15,830 --> 01:32:13,760
point where you say

2321
01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:15,840
where's the proof what proof can you

2322
01:32:19,430 --> 01:32:17,760
offer these claims

2323
01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:19,440
or you know it's just a form of

2324
01:32:24,629 --> 01:32:21,760
entertainment for people

2325
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:24,639
i really agree with you there are a

2326
01:32:31,990 --> 01:32:28,239
certain people who make these claims and

2327
01:32:33,910 --> 01:32:32,000
i myself even with all of my experience

2328
01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:33,920
in regressing people and learning all

2329
01:32:36,629 --> 01:32:35,520
that i have

2330
01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:36,639
even i

2331
01:32:38,790 --> 01:32:37,600
wonder

2332
01:32:40,709 --> 01:32:38,800
sometimes

2333
01:32:43,750 --> 01:32:40,719
about some of these people could that be

2334
01:32:46,950 --> 01:32:43,760
really true about what's happening

2335
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:46,960
under the ice in antarctica for instance

2336
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:49,120
i mean i don't know

2337
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:51,280
you know that that's the thing that

2338
01:32:55,270 --> 01:32:52,800
sometimes we

2339
01:32:57,750 --> 01:32:55,280
we have to take somebody else's word for

2340
01:32:58,950 --> 01:32:57,760
it and whether we really take the word

2341
01:33:01,350 --> 01:32:58,960
for it

2342
01:33:02,470 --> 01:33:01,360
you know that varies considerably i

2343
01:33:04,629 --> 01:33:02,480
should think

2344
01:33:08,229 --> 01:33:04,639
i i'd like to

2345
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:08,239
make one one more

2346
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:09,600
thought here

2347
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:12,960
about the genetic testing

2348
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:14,880
as we know

2349
01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:18,000
there are genetic tests that are very

2350
01:33:22,709 --> 01:33:19,280
available

2351
01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:22,719
on the internet and so forth and ads for

2352
01:33:24,629 --> 01:33:23,520
them

2353
01:33:26,310 --> 01:33:24,639
um

2354
01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:26,320
so

2355
01:33:31,110 --> 01:33:27,679
they can tell

2356
01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:31,120
um what countries which cultures

2357
01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:32,800
people came from

2358
01:33:38,229 --> 01:33:36,080
um that's that's one type of testing

2359
01:33:41,270 --> 01:33:38,239
another type of testing

2360
01:33:43,669 --> 01:33:41,280
is that there are certain

2361
01:33:46,629 --> 01:33:43,679
a very limited in fact

2362
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,639
number of markers that we know about

2363
01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:48,480
in a dna

2364
01:33:51,590 --> 01:33:49,760
sequence

2365
01:33:55,270 --> 01:33:51,600
and there's always

2366
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:55,280
a large number of unknown

2367
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:56,639
markers

2368
01:34:00,550 --> 01:33:58,080
we don't know

2369
01:34:02,310 --> 01:34:00,560
what they are geneticists don't know

2370
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:02,320
what they are

2371
01:34:03,669 --> 01:34:02,560
so

2372
01:34:04,629 --> 01:34:03,679
[Applause]

2373
01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:04,639
a

2374
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:05,920
hybrid

2375
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:08,159
living here

2376
01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:09,840
would probably have some of the regular

2377
01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:12,000
markers and maybe

2378
01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:14,000
a larger proportion

2379
01:34:18,790 --> 01:34:16,400
of unknown

2380
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:18,800
markers i don't know but i would

2381
01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:21,360
guess that would probably be the case

2382
01:34:26,870 --> 01:34:24,560
but it would still be in the category of

2383
01:34:30,470 --> 01:34:26,880
unknown

2384
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,480
and as i said before the only way

2385
01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:32,800
that it can be determined

2386
01:34:37,669 --> 01:34:35,040
that some of the markers are actually

2387
01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:37,679
extraterrestrial

2388
01:34:39,669 --> 01:34:38,800
is

2389
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:39,679
if

2390
01:34:43,109 --> 01:34:41,760
the geneticist

2391
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:43,119
had

2392
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,400
actual extraterrestrial

2393
01:34:50,070 --> 01:34:48,639
material

2394
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,080
genetics

2395
01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:52,800
there to compare to

2396
01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:55,119
and again

2397
01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:57,679
who is going to admit

2398
01:35:02,149 --> 01:34:59,360
that they have that

2399
01:35:04,070 --> 01:35:02,159
well i'm glad that you said this because

2400
01:35:06,229 --> 01:35:04,080
when i talk to

2401
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:06,239
it's a it's a family friend let's just

2402
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:08,320
say he's a family friend that's a

2403
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:09,600
geneticist

2404
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:12,239
and does all kinds of dna testing very

2405
01:35:16,629 --> 01:35:15,280
well respected very very educated on the

2406
01:35:17,990 --> 01:35:16,639
subject

2407
01:35:20,550 --> 01:35:18,000
most would say

2408
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:20,560
i don't want to name him yet if but most

2409
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:22,719
would say he's one of the leaders in his

2410
01:35:27,109 --> 01:35:24,480
field so

2411
01:35:29,990 --> 01:35:27,119
here's what he suggested

2412
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:30,000
uh to take the dna samples from each of

2413
01:35:36,709 --> 01:35:32,880
these hybrids and then he would compare

2414
01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:36,719
their sample with a sample he takes from

2415
01:35:41,350 --> 01:35:38,080
uh

2416
01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:41,360
admitted human volunteer or even himself

2417
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:44,639
he would compare it with neanderthal dna

2418
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:46,880
he would compare it with chimpanzee

2419
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:49,600
gorilla and orangutan dna and so the

2420
01:35:54,390 --> 01:35:52,159
comparison would be

2421
01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:54,400
to look at all these different species

2422
01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:56,800
types and then look at the hybrids

2423
01:36:04,310 --> 01:35:59,520
and see is there a difference or do they

2424
01:36:08,790 --> 01:36:07,510
well does he have neanderthal dna i

2425
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:08,800
don't know but this is what we were

2426
01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:11,920
talking about you know i'm sure that he

2427
01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:14,719
has if he if he said that maybe he has

2428
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:20,950
well isn't that interesting wow

2429
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:24,000
that would be really

2430
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:25,600
very amazing

2431
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:28,480
if he did have um

2432
01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:29,280
well

2433
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:30,800
the thing is

2434
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,920
what i guess i guess my major point in

2435
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:35,600
in the in the

2436
01:36:39,669 --> 01:36:37,440
you know just the thought about the

2437
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:39,679
testing is i would leave it to an expert

2438
01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:41,679
to look at the dna of these hybrids and

2439
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:44,239
then look at the dna of acumen and say

2440
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:46,480
is is there any significant differences

2441
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:49,040
here that prove that this person is not

2442
01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:51,600
entirely human or is this just regular

2443
01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:53,520
human dna and there's no there's nothing

2444
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:55,600
different nothing special about it i

2445
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:56,880
think most

2446
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:58,880
people who do genetic testing would be

2447
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:00,960
able to do that test

2448
01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:02,800
i would think

2449
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:04,840
well yes but then there's the

2450
01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:07,920
whole um item of

2451
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:10,239
do they have to return do they have to

2452
01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:12,719
report that to that department of the

2453
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,320
government

2454
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:16,320
yeah i don't know like i said i've never

2455
01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:18,480
heard of that i'd have to look at i

2456
01:37:23,189 --> 01:37:21,119
guess i'd have to ask some of these labs

2457
01:37:26,070 --> 01:37:23,199
if they have to report everything to

2458
01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:26,080
some government agency or not if that's

2459
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:29,199
you said that they're required to right

2460
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:33,199
well that's that's what i have been told

2461
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:36,080
by a few sources including just

2462
01:37:38,470 --> 01:37:37,840
just recently

2463
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:38,480
um

2464
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:39,520
[Applause]

2465
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:42,480
someone here here's what i found out

2466
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,639
and it may or may not be related to what

2467
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:46,320
you're talking about but

2468
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:48,480
let's say for example that i send a

2469
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:52,080
sample to ancestry.com service and they

2470
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:55,040
do the ancestry dna testing for me send

2471
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:57,119
me back that paperwork that tells me i'm

2472
01:38:00,830 --> 01:37:59,440
you know eastern european primarily and

2473
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:00,840
a little bit of this and a little bit of

2474
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:03,440
that there uh

2475
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:06,080
they retain the sample

2476
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:07,119
there

2477
01:38:13,109 --> 01:38:10,320
and then that sample is subpoenable

2478
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:13,119
by any government agency

2479
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:15,520
for the purposes of uh

2480
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:17,280
criminal investigation

2481
01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:18,480
but that's it

2482
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,480
give away the sample to other

2483
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,880
uh you know organizations and they

2484
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:28,560
retain it for a certain amount of time

2485
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:30,719
while it will be subpoena bubble

2486
01:38:34,629 --> 01:38:32,639
you know for like a murder case maybe

2487
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:34,639
you left your dna somewhere you got an

2488
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:36,080
ancestry test

2489
01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:38,080
the police can't get a dna

2490
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:40,639
sample from you so they subpoena the one

2491
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,360
that's there at ancestry

2492
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:45,360
ah

2493
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:47,040
i found no

2494
01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:50,639
private

2495
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:53,119
uh you know genetics lab has to report

2496
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:54,639
anything to the government not when

2497
01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:56,159
they're under contract from somebody

2498
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:57,520
that they're doing the work for that is

2499
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:00,719
also a private individual

2500
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:03,600
well i'm glad that you know personally

2501
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:04,880
know

2502
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:07,840
someone who has a lab

2503
01:39:10,830 --> 01:39:10,080
you know maybe that person

2504
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,840
would

2505
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,960
disclose to you

2506
01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:15,280
um whether or not

2507
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:17,840
he is mandated

2508
01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:19,360
i'm going to check in with a couple of

2509
01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:22,080
different labs and ask them what their

2510
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:24,719
policy is if if i send you some genetic

2511
01:39:28,629 --> 01:39:26,000
testing do you have to report the

2512
01:39:30,229 --> 01:39:28,639
results to any government agency i mean

2513
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:30,239
there's hundreds of labs that do this

2514
01:39:38,830 --> 01:39:36,310
yes i'm sure there are um

2515
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:38,840
yeah so we'll find out what you can

2516
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,719
um

2517
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:43,199
yeah i mean i think this is a very

2518
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:45,360
important question

2519
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:46,800
and uh

2520
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:49,440
you know makes a difference between

2521
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:52,159
the hybrids agreeing to have the testing

2522
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:53,280
or not

2523
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:56,639
agreeing to have the testing

2524
01:40:01,189 --> 01:39:58,560
sure and i would i would think maybe

2525
01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:01,199
many of them are curious themselves you

2526
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,360
know and what would they do what would

2527
01:40:07,510 --> 01:40:05,040
they do if they had that 100 percent

2528
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:07,520
confirmation that this is actually a

2529
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:08,960
reality

2530
01:40:10,950 --> 01:40:09,760
or

2531
01:40:13,510 --> 01:40:10,960
how would they deal with the

2532
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:13,520
disappointment of someone telling them

2533
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:15,600
you have regular human genetics and

2534
01:40:18,310 --> 01:40:17,040
there's nothing

2535
01:40:21,270 --> 01:40:18,320
special or

2536
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:21,280
out of the ordinary about your dna

2537
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:24,480
yeah yeah well i i can see why

2538
01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:26,560
uh you'd really like to know that i'm

2539
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:29,679
very interested in that as well

2540
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:31,360
yeah i think it would be like that would

2541
01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:33,760
be the ultimate follow-up for you to if

2542
01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:34,639
you could

2543
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:36,400
get any of them to agree to that i'd be

2544
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:38,560
willing to try to help

2545
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:41,440
well work together you find

2546
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:45,280
a lab where they're really trustworthy

2547
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:48,480
but not about not sending those results

2548
01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:51,440
on to any department of the government

2549
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:54,960
and then i can work with the hybrids

2550
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:57,840
yeah that would be amazing and the other

2551
01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:00,159
uh i guess i don't i hate to jump to a

2552
01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:02,000
whole other subject but you do have a

2553
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:03,360
great other book

2554
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:04,639
that people should know about it's

2555
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:08,159
called crop circles revealed

2556
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,960
and i got that probably

2557
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:13,040
when you first published it maybe

2558
01:41:15,189 --> 01:41:14,159
but i

2559
01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:15,199
yeah

2560
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:17,760
go look at what it's the price of it is

2561
01:41:22,310 --> 01:41:19,760
on amazon right now

2562
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:22,320
like there's i don't know it must be uh

2563
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:25,600
pretty high in demand

2564
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:26,800
so

2565
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:29,840
but on the subject of crop circles why

2566
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:32,639
were you interested in that as well and

2567
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:34,239
can you tell us the difference between

2568
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:36,639
the hoaxed and so-called genuine crop

2569
01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:38,960
circles and how do people tell the

2570
01:41:42,950 --> 01:41:40,800
difference

2571
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:42,960
okay well

2572
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:46,719
i became interested because i went to

2573
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,040
in 1990

2574
01:41:51,990 --> 01:41:50,880
i went to a

2575
01:41:53,669 --> 01:41:52,000
large

2576
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:53,679
forum where they have many many

2577
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:56,480
different lectures called the whole

2578
01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:58,320
life expo

2579
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:01,440
and in the program guide i noticed

2580
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:04,480
that one of the speakers coming up

2581
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:07,679
um was going to talk about mysterious

2582
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:08,960
patterns

2583
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:11,679
in the fields of britain

2584
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:13,760
and there was a picture

2585
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:16,560
instead of the speaker's picture

2586
01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:18,000
in this

2587
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:20,320
program guide

2588
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:21,360
it was

2589
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:23,360
sort of a funny little

2590
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:24,800
pattern

2591
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:27,600
and when i saw that

2592
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:30,080
i immediately

2593
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:32,239
felt a flash

2594
01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:33,760
of light

2595
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:36,000
bursting in me

2596
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:37,760
and the thought

2597
01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:39,840
came very powerfully

2598
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:40,880
ah

2599
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:43,199
we're being communicated with

2600
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:46,400
from out there in other words out in

2601
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:48,000
space

2602
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:48,800
and

2603
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:51,280
i went to that lecture

2604
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:53,360
and halfway through

2605
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:54,480
i

2606
01:43:02,790 --> 01:42:59,119
england

2607
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:02,800
next summer to check this out for myself

2608
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:05,920
so this was before

2609
01:43:09,870 --> 01:43:08,560
i actually started working with people

2610
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:09,880
who have the

2611
01:43:14,790 --> 01:43:12,639
extraterrestrial encounters yes so this

2612
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:14,800
is our first book

2613
01:43:18,709 --> 01:43:17,679
yes that's why when i heard about your

2614
01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:18,719
book

2615
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:23,679
and i went i know that name why do i

2616
01:43:27,430 --> 01:43:25,280
know that name so i had to go and look

2617
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:27,440
and it was from your first book here

2618
01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:29,840
crop circles revealed

2619
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:32,480
so i've been uh researching

2620
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,239
the crop circles in england for 26

2621
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:39,119
years i'm still researching it but i've

2622
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:40,719
actually been there

2623
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,679
26 consecutive years

2624
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:46,159
um visiting many many crop circles

2625
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:49,600
myself i've been in probably 2 000

2626
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:51,199
crop circles

2627
01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:54,400
and have paid attention to it all dur

2628
01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:56,960
each year as well

2629
01:44:02,470 --> 01:43:58,639
i've only ever been in one and it was

2630
01:44:04,830 --> 01:44:02,480
one that i tried to make with a friend

2631
01:44:06,550 --> 01:44:04,840
i did a really terrible job over in new

2632
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:06,560
jersey

2633
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:09,280
in a corn field

2634
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:11,040
oh well corn is

2635
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:13,040
very hard that brings me to the primary

2636
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:14,800
question i had for you now there's ones

2637
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:17,679
that people know are man-made but then

2638
01:44:23,350 --> 01:44:20,480
there's some really compelling proof

2639
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:23,360
to to the ones that are so-called

2640
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,400
genuine crop circles not made by men can

2641
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:28,400
you tell us about that

2642
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:29,760
certainly can

2643
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:32,400
uh with a man-made one we'll start with

2644
01:44:35,669 --> 01:44:33,440
that

2645
01:44:37,430 --> 01:44:35,679
with a man-made one

2646
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:37,440
they are

2647
01:44:41,750 --> 01:44:40,239
made the crops are laid down

2648
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:41,760
in a pattern

2649
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,679
by

2650
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:44,880
men

2651
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:49,920
stomping on a broad board or using a

2652
01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:51,600
garden roller

2653
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:54,880
so the plants get bent over

2654
01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:56,639
right at the level where they come out

2655
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:58,080
of the ground

2656
01:45:04,870 --> 01:45:00,560
and they get broken

2657
01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:04,880
by this harsh pressure and so they lose

2658
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:08,400
their connection with their roots

2659
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:10,480
so each stalk

2660
01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:13,679
in a crop circle that is man-made each

2661
01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:14,840
stock

2662
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:19,520
dies and so they have no energy and then

2663
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:21,360
they look flat

2664
01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:22,800
they've been sort of

2665
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:24,800
crushed

2666
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:27,920
they are not living they have no

2667
01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:31,600
energy no life force about them

2668
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:33,760
and frankly

2669
01:45:41,109 --> 01:45:36,880
when they're laid down on the ground

2670
01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:41,119
they're laid down usually a bit messier

2671
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,400
than with the genuine crop circles now

2672
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:47,280
in contrast to that

2673
01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:50,080
the genuine crop circles

2674
01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:54,719
are laid down not by any force

2675
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:55,760
but

2676
01:46:02,310 --> 01:45:57,600
either by

2677
01:46:05,030 --> 01:46:02,320
a ball of light that comes from above

2678
01:46:08,149 --> 01:46:05,040
or a plasma

2679
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,159
vortex which swirls around

2680
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:10,800
and comes down to ground level

2681
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:13,520
making the crop circle

2682
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:17,040
or by a beam of light

2683
01:46:20,070 --> 01:46:18,400
coming from

2684
01:46:21,910 --> 01:46:20,080
high above

2685
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:21,920
at least that's

2686
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:24,400
what has been witnessed

2687
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:26,880
in the making of a crop circle

2688
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:27,679
and

2689
01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:28,960
these

2690
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:30,800
stalks

2691
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:33,600
of the crop and this kind of crops

2692
01:46:37,430 --> 01:46:34,800
to go

2693
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:37,440
over at ground level just above the

2694
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:39,040
ground

2695
01:46:47,109 --> 01:46:42,400
in a nice curved bend

2696
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,119
without any cracking or any breaking

2697
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:49,360
this is very important

2698
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:52,000
because that means that each stalk laid

2699
01:46:54,629 --> 01:46:52,880
down

2700
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:54,639
in the crop circle

2701
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:56,639
continues to grow

2702
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:58,000
and ripen

2703
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:01,679
and come to full maturity

2704
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:03,679
not only that

2705
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:04,639
but

2706
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:06,960
those crops are gross the genuine crop

2707
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:11,440
circles are full of energy

2708
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:14,400
that is not present there in the rest of

2709
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:15,840
the field

2710
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:16,800
even

2711
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:19,520
one inch or so outside of the crop

2712
01:47:22,470 --> 01:47:20,480
circle

2713
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:22,480
in the rest of the crop

2714
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:23,920
in the field

2715
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:26,480
and this energy can be measured

2716
01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:28,639
in various ways

2717
01:47:34,229 --> 01:47:31,920
by electrostatic voltmeters

2718
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:34,239
and magnetometers

2719
01:47:37,350 --> 01:47:35,679
and

2720
01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:37,360
detectors

2721
01:47:44,149 --> 01:47:42,000
and by dowsing rods and pendulums

2722
01:47:47,350 --> 01:47:44,159
so there's no doubt

2723
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:47,360
that the genuine crop circles have a lot

2724
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:51,840
of energy in them and the energy even

2725
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:53,520
varies

2726
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:57,280
by being a little bit less toward the

2727
01:48:01,030 --> 01:47:59,119
inner edge

2728
01:48:04,629 --> 01:48:01,040
of the crop circle

2729
01:48:07,669 --> 01:48:04,639
and more intense higher energy

2730
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:07,679
where the crop has been swirled

2731
01:48:12,550 --> 01:48:09,440
which also happens

2732
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:12,560
in the middle of a crop circle

2733
01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:13,440
so

2734
01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:16,400
there really are these differences

2735
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:19,760
and the genuine crop circles

2736
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:20,639
have

2737
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:22,880
very interesting

2738
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,600
way that the crop is laid

2739
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:27,920
in many cases

2740
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:30,480
the crop is sort of formed

2741
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:33,840
sometimes into sculptural

2742
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:35,760
forms that kind of

2743
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:38,400
stand up from the ground

2744
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:39,679
like big

2745
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:43,920
tuffs coming up and then folding over

2746
01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:46,880
and being swirled around

2747
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:50,080
many different elaborate ground

2748
01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:52,000
details

2749
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:54,320
sometimes the crop is even

2750
01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:55,840
braided

2751
01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:57,920
in a braiding pattern

2752
01:49:05,109 --> 01:49:01,280
or a cross hatch pattern

2753
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:05,119
in some of these genuine crop circles

2754
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:06,880
so there really

2755
01:49:09,189 --> 01:49:07,679
are

2756
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:09,199
substantial

2757
01:49:14,229 --> 01:49:11,040
differences

2758
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:14,239
and i like to tell people about this all

2759
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:17,280
of this data and measurable

2760
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,280
scientific proof that you're talking

2761
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:21,440
about because once in a while if i talk

2762
01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:23,360
to somebody about crop circles they say

2763
01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:25,760
well you know some guy in england they

2764
01:49:29,990 --> 01:49:28,320
showed how they did that with boards and

2765
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:30,000
you know it's really important that

2766
01:49:32,629 --> 01:49:31,360
people distinguish that yeah they're

2767
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,639
people that just go out there and make

2768
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:34,800
these cool geometric designs but they

2769
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:37,520
don't show any of these weird anomalies

2770
01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:39,679
that the ones that are so called genuine

2771
01:49:43,189 --> 01:49:41,199
do

2772
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:43,199
well that's right and another thing is

2773
01:49:48,149 --> 01:49:45,760
that with the genuine ones

2774
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:48,159
they're made very very quickly

2775
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:52,000
and usually in the complete blackness of

2776
01:49:55,910 --> 01:49:52,960
night

2777
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:55,920
so it's been estimated that crop circles

2778
01:49:59,189 --> 01:49:57,440
take between

2779
01:50:02,790 --> 01:49:59,199
five seconds

2780
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:02,800
and 30 seconds that is not very long

2781
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:04,880
that's amazing when you see the when you

2782
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:07,040
see the elaborateness of some of these

2783
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:08,560
things that it could be made in such a

2784
01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:13,360
short time yes and and the enormous size

2785
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:14,239
i mean

2786
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:15,360
some of them

2787
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:17,440
uh have been known to be

2788
01:50:23,189 --> 01:50:20,639
1 000 feet long

2789
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:23,199
in a very complicated pattern and

2790
01:50:28,990 --> 01:50:24,719
hundred feet

2791
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:29,000
long in another case and uh some of them

2792
01:50:34,709 --> 01:50:31,440
409 circles

2793
01:50:36,070 --> 01:50:34,719
and a very large diameter 800 foot

2794
01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:36,080
diameter

2795
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:38,639
in kind of a circular form made up of

2796
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:39,840
circles

2797
01:50:47,589 --> 01:50:43,280
um so yes it's really quite

2798
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:47,599
extraordinary and um a team of people

2799
01:50:53,189 --> 01:50:49,840
making a crop circle

2800
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:53,199
even with four or five or more

2801
01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:56,000
people stomping down the crop and making

2802
01:51:03,510 --> 01:50:59,440
a crop circle in the light of day

2803
01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:03,520
that usually takes them several hours

2804
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:04,880
to make that

2805
01:51:09,990 --> 01:51:08,719
hoaxed that man-made crop circle and

2806
01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:10,000
there's no

2807
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:12,159
uh change of energy

2808
01:51:18,070 --> 01:51:14,000
wow what a fantastic

2809
01:51:20,790 --> 01:51:18,080
uh conversation that i've had with you

2810
01:51:22,229 --> 01:51:20,800
you also have a book alien experiences

2811
01:51:23,669 --> 01:51:22,239
can you tell us just a little bit about

2812
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:23,679
that

2813
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:26,000
yes yes definitely

2814
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:27,040
well

2815
01:51:33,669 --> 01:51:30,400
that was published in 2008 but it's

2816
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:33,679
still of great interest

2817
01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:36,719
there are 25 cases

2818
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:38,880
from my caseload

2819
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:41,599
of regressing people to extraterrestrial

2820
01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:42,960
encounters

2821
01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:45,920
and the 25 that i have chosen for that

2822
01:51:50,550 --> 01:51:46,800
book

2823
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:50,560
show quite a representation of very

2824
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:53,280
different kinds of beings

2825
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:55,520
and different kinds of things that

2826
01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:57,040
happened

2827
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:59,280
in those encounters

2828
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:01,520
so it's kind of a nice

2829
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:03,360
overall view

2830
01:52:06,629 --> 01:52:05,040
of the variety

2831
01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:06,639
of what happens

2832
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:09,280
in these encounters with these unusual

2833
01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:10,400
beings

2834
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:13,119
and the main case

2835
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:15,760
that is featured in

2836
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:19,520
alien experiences book

2837
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:20,639
are the

2838
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:22,800
series of experiences

2839
01:52:28,709 --> 01:52:25,280
which were had by

2840
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:28,719
my co-author nadine lollix

2841
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:31,920
and she remembered consciously

2842
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:34,480
about her encounters more than most

2843
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:35,679
people do

2844
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:36,719
remember

2845
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:39,520
but we also did regressions

2846
01:52:43,669 --> 01:52:42,080
on those encounters and got even more

2847
01:52:47,350 --> 01:52:43,679
details

2848
01:52:49,189 --> 01:52:47,360
so that's very a very interesting part

2849
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:49,199
we also have

2850
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:50,480
some

2851
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:53,679
helpful advice for people who are having

2852
01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:55,840
these experiences

2853
01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:00,320
and we have listed oh a lot of

2854
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:03,040
clues probably 20 or 30

2855
01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:04,960
clues

2856
01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:07,920
that would help to know

2857
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:09,840
somebody to know

2858
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:12,159
whether or not they've had these kinds

2859
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:16,639
of extraterrestrial encounters

2860
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:18,800
so i think it's

2861
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:22,560
a very very interesting book and people

2862
01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:23,520
who

2863
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:26,159
have experienced these encounters and

2864
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:29,040
have read the book say oh wow that

2865
01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:30,000
really

2866
01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:32,560
helped a lot to know they're not alone

2867
01:53:35,669 --> 01:53:33,360
and

2868
01:53:36,870 --> 01:53:35,679
that there were so many different kinds

2869
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:36,880
of beings

2870
01:53:42,470 --> 01:53:39,199
and so many different kinds of

2871
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:42,480
encounters that happened

2872
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,520
wow so and so you have three books total

2873
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:48,000
we have crop circles revealed which i

2874
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:49,920
have to say is amazing if you're if

2875
01:53:53,589 --> 01:53:52,000
you've ever even thought about crop

2876
01:53:55,589 --> 01:53:53,599
circles or had any interest of it if you

2877
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:55,599
really want to see some groundbreaking

2878
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,239
work on it that's a great book

2879
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:00,880
uh and miss liam has described her alien

2880
01:54:06,149 --> 01:54:03,840
experiences book and her latest meet the

2881
01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:06,159
hybrids wouldn't you like to hear

2882
01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:09,199
the story of these apparent

2883
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:11,520
e.t human hybrids

2884
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:13,280
and where is the best place to get your

2885
01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:15,599
books

2886
01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:16,880
well

2887
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:19,199
amazon.com

2888
01:54:26,709 --> 01:54:24,000
has each of those books and

2889
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:26,719
also i can be emailed

2890
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:30,080
and i will send a signed copy with a

2891
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:31,440
little message

2892
01:54:37,990 --> 01:54:34,159
to the person with a person's name

2893
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:38,000
if the person would like that and my

2894
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:39,840
email address

2895
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,560
is

2896
01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:42,719
barbara

2897
01:54:53,030 --> 01:54:44,880
dot

2898
01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:55,510
at gmail

2899
01:54:58,629 --> 01:54:57,040
dot com

2900
01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:58,639
so that's a good way to get in touch

2901
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:59,599
with me

2902
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:00,400
and

2903
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:04,320
send a book the person

2904
01:55:11,510 --> 01:55:08,560
would need to send a check but um then i

2905
01:55:13,589 --> 01:55:11,520
would put a book right in the mail and

2906
01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:13,599
send it out with a nice little

2907
01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:16,239
message to them and a signature oh

2908
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:18,239
that's awesome well listen i want to

2909
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:20,000
thank you for joining us on the show

2910
01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:22,480
what an amazing conversation we've had

2911
01:55:28,790 --> 01:55:24,159
thanks for being here with us you're

2912
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:31,510
well folks i don't know where to begin

2913
01:55:34,629 --> 01:55:33,360
because we really covered a lot of stuff

2914
01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:34,639
tonight

2915
01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,159
you know i've been reading about crop

2916
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:38,719
circles let's start there

2917
01:55:42,629 --> 01:55:40,480
ever since i was a little boy i was kind

2918
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:42,639
of fascinated by these geometric

2919
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:44,480
patterns out in the middle of some

2920
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,480
farmer's corn field

2921
01:55:49,910 --> 01:55:48,159
sometimes they had sort of secret

2922
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:49,920
messages

2923
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:52,239
with sacred geometry or some kind of

2924
01:55:56,229 --> 01:55:54,000
math trick

2925
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:56,239
so it was a mystery that i just thought

2926
01:56:01,510 --> 01:55:59,840
was cool and worth pursuing

2927
01:56:03,189 --> 01:56:01,520
you find out that a great number of them

2928
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:03,199
are man-made

2929
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,280
but you also find out that some of them

2930
01:56:10,709 --> 01:56:08,000
have these weird scientific anomalies

2931
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:10,719
associated with them people's batteries

2932
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,719
just die there's all kinds of

2933
01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:14,880
you can take a magnetometer into some of

2934
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:16,800
them and find these weird magnetic

2935
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:19,119
anomalies

2936
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,159
and a host of other

2937
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:24,800
data is coming out of some of them and

2938
01:56:28,390 --> 01:56:27,040
to me that is the interesting part of

2939
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:28,400
them

2940
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:30,960
and while i will continue to read about

2941
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:33,040
them with interest

2942
01:56:37,510 --> 01:56:34,800
i think the jury's still out on what

2943
01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:37,520
they are what's causing them or what

2944
01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:39,360
they mean

2945
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:41,679
now onto alien abductions i have to say

2946
01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:42,480
that

2947
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:44,320
you know i think there's only two cases

2948
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:47,840
that i really think are true and that is

2949
01:56:52,790 --> 01:56:50,080
travis walton's case and the barney and

2950
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:52,800
betty hill alien abduction case

2951
01:56:57,510 --> 01:56:55,360
look up either of them go

2952
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:57,520
down both those rabbit holes and you'll

2953
01:57:01,910 --> 01:56:59,599
be glad you did because there's some

2954
01:57:02,950 --> 01:57:01,920
evidence with those cases but with most

2955
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:02,960
people

2956
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:05,119
i don't know there's just zero evidence

2957
01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:06,880
other than their story there's no

2958
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:09,520
corroboration there's no

2959
01:57:13,910 --> 01:57:12,400
you know it's just a story i just keep

2960
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:13,920
coming back to that there's so many

2961
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:16,159
people that are just telling stories

2962
01:57:19,589 --> 01:57:17,920
i want to see some evidence with the

2963
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:19,599
story i want to see some kind of proof

2964
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,040
to prove that what you're saying is

2965
01:57:25,189 --> 01:57:23,520
accurate i know that can't

2966
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:25,199
always happen

2967
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:26,159
but

2968
01:57:30,709 --> 01:57:28,400
extraordinary claims i really believe

2969
01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:30,719
require extraordinary proof and a lot of

2970
01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:32,719
these people who claim to be abducted by

2971
01:57:35,510 --> 01:57:34,400
aliens have

2972
01:57:37,910 --> 01:57:35,520
they don't

2973
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:37,920
just not have extraordinary proof they

2974
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:39,199
don't have

2975
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:42,400
very very basic proof or any proof at

2976
01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:43,360
all

2977
01:57:46,709 --> 01:57:44,960
so it leads me to believe that a lot of

2978
01:57:49,270 --> 01:57:46,719
them are frauds just looking for money

2979
01:57:50,950 --> 01:57:49,280
or fame i'm not sure or maybe just

2980
01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:50,960
attention

2981
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:53,840
onto the alien hybrids i feel the exact

2982
01:57:57,189 --> 01:57:55,440
same way

2983
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:57,199
if you're claiming you have alien dna

2984
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,280
it's pretty quick and easy for us to

2985
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:01,840
figure out a test to check out your dna

2986
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:04,080
and see if it's entirely human or not

2987
01:58:07,750 --> 01:58:06,080
not one of these people will submit to

2988
01:58:09,350 --> 01:58:07,760
that kind of a test

2989
01:58:11,669 --> 01:58:09,360
and somebody's saying they know they

2990
01:58:13,990 --> 01:58:11,679
have well i know this person has alien

2991
01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:14,000
dna well that's good that you know that

2992
01:58:18,149 --> 01:58:16,000
i want to know it and for me to know it

2993
01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:18,159
i need some proof

2994
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:21,280
my prediction on this challenge that i

2995
01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:23,520
gave miss lamb is zero of them none of

2996
01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:25,840
them will take the test

2997
01:58:29,430 --> 01:58:27,679
none of them will prove any of the

2998
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:29,440
things that they're claiming

2999
01:58:33,030 --> 01:58:31,040
none of them will prove their so-called

3000
01:58:35,030 --> 01:58:33,040
psychic abilities none of them will

3001
01:58:37,589 --> 01:58:35,040
offer any proof to their so-called

3002
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:37,599
intuitive natures

3003
01:58:42,629 --> 01:58:39,360
any of these claims they're making

3004
01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:42,639
they're not gonna prove any of it

3005
01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:44,480
they're just gonna keep telling stories

3006
01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:46,239
and taking people's money

3007
01:58:50,229 --> 01:58:48,800
and i'm not really quite sure how i feel

3008
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:50,239
about that if you just want to be

3009
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:51,920
entertained by some guy that says he's

3010
01:58:55,189 --> 01:58:53,440
half alien

3011
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:55,199
good give him a couple of bucks if you

3012
01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:57,280
want to buy a book about it

3013
01:59:01,270 --> 01:58:59,440
miss lamb's book is good for that but

3014
01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:01,280
i'm torn you know because i think miss

3015
01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:03,119
lam's a good person and she really

3016
01:59:07,270 --> 01:59:05,119
believes what these people are telling

3017
01:59:08,709 --> 01:59:07,280
her i think she's just a little bit too

3018
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:08,719
trusting though

3019
01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:11,440
she needs to press them for some kind of

3020
01:59:18,149 --> 01:59:17,270
the best thing that i could say is just

3021
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:18,159
that

3022
01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:20,320
i think miss lamb is a great person

3023
01:59:24,070 --> 01:59:22,400
she's a good writer very educated

3024
01:59:25,589 --> 01:59:24,080
charismatic woman

3025
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:25,599
fun to talk to

3026
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:27,920
i really think she's a great person but

3027
01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:30,239
as far as these stories thinks he's a

3028
01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:32,480
little bit too trusting and needs to

3029
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:34,159
push for more proof

3030
01:59:38,870 --> 01:59:36,320
until then i'd be happy to be here to

3031
01:59:40,629 --> 01:59:38,880
help her do that come on miss lamb get

3032
01:59:43,030 --> 01:59:40,639
me on the phone with these half alien

3033
01:59:45,189 --> 01:59:43,040
guys let me talk to them let's see what

3034
01:59:46,550 --> 01:59:45,199
we can find out

3035
01:59:49,830 --> 01:59:46,560
i don't think that's going to happen

3036
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:49,840
folks but the offer is there

3037
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:51,760
i want to thank you each and every one

3038
01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:53,679
of you for tuning in once again please

3039
01:59:58,870 --> 01:59:55,920
like our facebook page you can message

3040
02:00:00,629 --> 01:59:58,880
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3041
02:00:03,430 --> 02:00:00,639
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3042
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:03,440
and please do continue to support us

3043
02:00:09,189 --> 02:00:06,320
until then i'm stephen cambion thanking

3044
02:00:11,669 --> 02:00:09,199
you for joining us on another great

3045
02:00:12,470 --> 02:00:11,679
night of mystery here on the midnight

3046
02:00:15,940 --> 02:00:12,480
hour

3047
02:00:33,150 --> 02:00:15,950
good night folks

3048
02:01:24,180 --> 02:00:56,149
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